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« on: Dec 26, 2007, 06:25PM »

Since my recent trip to Connecticut to visit my father and kid brother, I've decided to invest in a horn for my brother. He's in 6th grade, but hasn't started band because of moving from Florida to Connecticut this school year. I've searched music stores, pawn shops, online, etc from Ohio to Connecticut looking for a good horn for him.

Originally I was thinking about one of the big three (as I call them with my own trombone students) to purchase: Bach TB300, Conn Director, or Yamaha 354. I've since found a Conn Victor in Good+ condition that I'd really like to get for him. Problem is, I have no idea what a reasonable price for that model is because it's the only one I've been able to find with a price tag attached.

What do you think a fair estimate would be assuming: Lacquer 2pc soldered bell, few small dents in the tuning slide, lacquer good with little scratching, 8/10 in the handslide, excellent case? Is this a suitable horn for a beginner, or should I keep it for myself and get him something different?

Side question: Anyone in the Cromwell, CT area? I'd like to get him set up with lessons to get him caught up to everyone else in his grade (or maybe even ahead).
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« Reply #1 on: Dec 26, 2007, 06:31PM »

victor  is  great !!!!!!!  might be  6h slide type  outer w  sleeves
or a 5h   w  double drawn  outers
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500   for  average cond ///less is  good  if its  funky 
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« Reply #2 on: Dec 27, 2007, 02:20PM »

Well, I bought it! "CG Conn LTD Victor" stamped on the side, 6H on the slide. Slide is better than I thought, 8.5/10. Dates around Late 1975 (Ser. No. GH570,XXX), puts in in Abilene. Thanks to everyone who helped me catch that! Took two horns in to trade toward it, a Martin Imperial Cornet and a Jupiter student line trombone. While at the store, get this, I also found Bach Mt. Vernon 12C mouthpiece in great condition! I've included a picture of the receipt, WOW! I guess I'll have to go look for another student horn!


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-------------Mt. Vernon Bach 12C Mouthpiece--------------




-------Receipt (Don't look if you're the jealous type)------
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« Reply #3 on: Dec 27, 2007, 02:23PM »

Nice find for you!  Where did you find the horn? (

Just curious as I lived in Columbus from 1990-2004... and sold my old 36B at the Music-Go-Round on Morse Rd in Gahanna.)

Time to get a Yammie YSL-354 for brother.

 
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« Reply #4 on: Dec 27, 2007, 03:43PM »

Beautiful, and what a steal!!!   :-0

Kinda jealous.  :D
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« Reply #5 on: Dec 27, 2007, 04:02PM »

This horn looks like Abilene to me. The slide is identical to one  I have  on one of my 6Hs which I love. The bracing gives it away for me. See if the serial number has a prefix.
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« Reply #6 on: Dec 27, 2007, 05:06PM »

Indeed it does have a prefix. It's stamped "GH 570,XXX". I didn't see any of these prefixes on the Loyalist website so I just took them as slide model identifiers. Any idea when it would have been made if it's Abilene?
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« Reply #7 on: Dec 27, 2007, 05:45PM »

You need to be prosecuted!! That was a steal!  Way cool
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« Reply #8 on: Dec 27, 2007, 06:01PM »

Indeed it does have a prefix. It's stamped "GH 570,XXX". I didn't see any of these prefixes on the Loyalist website so I just took them as slide model identifiers. Any idea when it would have been made if it's Abilene?

That serial number unquestionably dates the horn to the Abilene years at Conn.  It was made in Texas in August of 1975.
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« Reply #9 on: Dec 27, 2007, 06:30PM »

Alex---An Elkhart 6-H will have a different engraving with a lot more detail on the bell. It will usually say Elkhart Indiana on the bell, not the USA in most cases.

My Elkhart Conns have always had a single letter in front of the serial numbers------Nxxxxxxxx.

For the price, that is still a steal, along with that mouthpiece!

Good buy, man! Good!
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« Reply #10 on: Dec 27, 2007, 09:14PM »

nice  horn   //abilene  for  sure  //70s 
better inners  than   earlier  6hs
good  stuff  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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mv  mpc  !!!!!!!!!  what  a score  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
congrats  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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 the 5hs  look same[same bell] except  outer  slide  doesnt have those  nickle  plated sleeves
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