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Question: What is your favorite mouthpiece?
Bach - 58 (20.2%)
Denis Wick - 23 (8%)
Yamaha - 16 (5.6%)
Schilke - 35 (12.2%)
Doug Elliott - 52 (18.1%)
Greg Black - 21 (7.3%)
Monette - 3 (1%)
Giddings and Webster - 20 (7%)
Velocity - 1 (0.3%)
King - 3 (1%)
Conn - 4 (1.4%)
Benge - 2 (0.7%)
Warburton - 9 (3.1%)
Holton - 1 (0.3%)
Griego - 12 (4.2%)
Karl Hammond - 18 (6.3%)
Laskey - 5 (1.7%)
Curry - 1 (0.3%)
Stork - 3 (1%)
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« on: Jan 03, 2011, 07:08AM »

  I don't care too much for bach.
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« Reply #1 on: Jan 03, 2011, 07:22AM »

We had a thread some time back on "worst mouthpiece ever made".  Some real stinkers wound up there.  And I own a few of them.

Why do you need to have people bashing mouthpieces?  Just because it doesn't work for you doesn't mean it's bad for everybody else.

Some folks love Denis Wick mouthpieces.  Others can't stand the rim shape.

Same for Schilke.

Same for Bach.

Same for Laskey.  Stork.  Monette.  Conn CL.  Black.  Griego.

Sorry, I just think this poll is a grand waste of time.
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« Reply #2 on: Jan 03, 2011, 07:24AM »

Sorry.  Just curious
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« Reply #3 on: Jan 03, 2011, 07:31AM »

I prefer Doug Elliott Mouthpieces :)
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« Reply #4 on: Jan 03, 2011, 07:32AM »

I didn't lock the voting.  Don't know who did.

I like polls that have a positive slant:  "What's your favorite mouthpiece".  Let people talk about what's good.  Then we can have a discussion like:

"I love Bach mouthpieces."
"I don't.  They don't feel right.  I prefer a Schilke."

"Monette is fantastic."
"You can buy better but you can't pay more." :-P

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Aha!  I see you changed the poll.  Fantastic.  Now I can vote.

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« Reply #5 on: Jan 03, 2011, 07:34AM »

I changed it to favorite and added more options, but I can't find a way to change the subject to favorite mouthpiece.  Can you help?
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« Reply #6 on: Jan 03, 2011, 07:35AM »

Denis Wick is by far my second choice of mouthpiece :) Love them!
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« Reply #7 on: Jan 03, 2011, 07:40AM »

OK.  This should fix it.  The first post is the title used in the listing, and the last post is the one that determines the heading of all subsequent replies.
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« Reply #8 on: Jan 03, 2011, 07:42AM »

Thank you! :)
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« Reply #9 on: Jan 03, 2011, 08:08AM »

I voted for G&W, that is what I play on bass trombone, medium and large bore tenor, euphonium and tuba.
I could thing of ways that could make the basstrombone and large bore tenor pieces even better, the tuba and medium tenor pieces are perfect for me.

Another makes that I like is Karl Hammomd, actually I thinik he is the #1 mouthpiece maker, but I want ss mouthpieces and he does not make them.

Griego too is a very good maker! Laskey is very good too.
Stork is a popular mpc, and many players like Curry.
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« Reply #10 on: Jan 03, 2011, 08:12AM »

I voted for G&W, that is what I play on bass trombone, medium and large bore tenor, euphonium and tuba.
I could thing of ways that could make the basstrombone and large bore tenor pieces even better, the tuba and medium tenor pieces are perfect for me.

Another makes that I like is Karl Hammomd, actually I thinik he is the #1 mouthpiece maker, but I want ss mouthpieces and he does not make them.

Griego too is a very good maker! Laskey is very good too.
Stork is a popular mpc, and many players like Curry.


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« Reply #11 on: Jan 03, 2011, 04:35PM »

While there are many who don't, I prefer monette mouthpieces. Yes, they cost a lot... but for me they work. They're very different but well suited for my playing.
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« Reply #12 on: Jan 03, 2011, 08:17PM »

Kelly  Good!
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« Reply #13 on: Jan 03, 2011, 08:55PM »

I love the mouthpiece that came with my jinbao.  The one that has no markings to indicate size.  Actually, I'm only being partially facetious, it isn't that bad of a mouthpiece... though I always play alto with my Doug Elliott unless I left it somewhere on accident.
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« Reply #14 on: Jan 03, 2011, 09:23PM »

My favorite mouthpiece at present is my Greg Black. Does everything I ask it to, fits my face nicely, tames the 'beast' that is my Conn 88H nicely.

I also love my new Hammond 19BL for my bass, but I've been playing the Greg Black for 8 years now, and the Hammond for 8 days, so hardly a fair comparison.

I really like the Yamaha 47 I play in some small-bore horns, gives a very nice brilliant tone quality.

And... when I needed a mouthpiece to tame the articulations/some degree of brilliance on a Besson .487 student horn to blend with an alto for the Mozart Requiem, my Bach 4 Megatone (small-shank, from a christmas-gift-from-non-trombonist 'special-order' mishap 10+ years ago, was supposed to be a large shank 4G) worked beautifully.

Still... I voted for the Greg Black, because I use it 90% of the time, haven't felt the need to look for anything to replace it, and overall just like the design/blank (Warburton uses a very similar blank, perhaps even the same one, and I've liked the few mouthpieces of theirs that I've tried as well) quite a bit.
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« Reply #15 on: Jan 04, 2011, 12:23AM »

I voted for Doug Elliott !

Because as a freelance player I have to play everything from Alto through to Basstrom/euph and his system allows me to do that without to much of a disturbance caused by rim changes!

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« Reply #16 on: Jan 06, 2011, 05:18PM »

I love my GW mouthpieces, they're great. Before that I used standard Bach 5 and 6 1/2's
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« Reply #17 on: Jan 08, 2011, 08:00AM »

I don't really have a favourite brand. However, I do have a favourite type - cushion rim! Anyone who makes a nice kindly mouthpiece which stops my scar becoming worse gets my vote. Which is why I voted for Bach.
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« Reply #18 on: Jan 08, 2011, 11:01AM »

I have been around through numerous mouthpieces and brands but I have come to favor the Ferguson V and L mouthpieces for bass playing....at least for the time being  Evil

Still testing different brands/mouthpieces for tenor and Euph playing due to my new found comfort on larger rims from playing bass full time.
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« Reply #19 on: Jan 08, 2011, 11:03AM »

Hi All,

Doug has been making mouthpieces that fit my face better than anything else.  I contacted him because I needed a mouthpiece to fit my bass sackbutt.  After trying his stuff and having him sell me something that fit my face well I was hooked, that was 18 years ago...

I still have some other mouthpieces including one GB A1, some tester Bachs in my shop and a couple of random other pieces.  For performances on tenor and bass trombones I use Doug's stuff exclusively.

With that being said, I like the sound of Bach pieces, but not the rims (in general), there are so many good pieces out there at the moment.

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« Reply #20 on: Jan 08, 2011, 04:40PM »

I don't really have a favourite brand. However, I do have a favourite type - cushion rim! Anyone who makes a nice kindly mouthpiece which stops my scar becoming worse gets my vote. Which is why I voted for Bach.
RHM, have you tried a Rudy Muck?
I used to use one as a tester mpc at work.  It was comfy!
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« Reply #21 on: Feb 02, 2011, 05:09PM »

After much experimentation, Doug's mouthpieces have really clicked with me, both tenor and bass.

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« Reply #22 on: Feb 02, 2011, 05:13PM »

RHM, have you tried a Rudy Muck?
I used to use one as a tester mpc at work.  It was comfy!
They are comfy but I can't articulate with them.  They are very comfy.
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« Reply #23 on: Feb 02, 2011, 05:24PM »

As of now...I am in love with my Shires 1-1/2G
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I don't really have a favourite brand. However, I do have a favourite type - cushion rim! Anyone who makes a nice kindly mouthpiece which stops my scar becoming worse gets my vote. Which is why I voted for Bach.
Scar? What happened?  :(
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« Reply #25 on: Feb 02, 2011, 08:03PM »

I use Hammonds in pretty much everything... Great pieces.
But I have to say, looking at these results, Congrats Doug! It's good to see a small maker with a huge consumer base like that.
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« Reply #26 on: Feb 04, 2011, 10:02PM »

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« Reply #27 on: Feb 05, 2011, 05:22AM »

Add Shires to the list!!  Good!
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« Reply #28 on: Feb 05, 2011, 06:38AM »

Add Shires to the list!!  Good!
Yeah that's what I use...looove that thing
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« Reply #29 on: Feb 05, 2011, 07:03AM »

NY Bach 12 for the jazz horn.
Faxx 5G for the 88H
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« Reply #30 on: Feb 11, 2011, 08:27AM »

I especially like the 6 1/2 AL.  It's so comfy!  It works great with my Bach 36.  I have to watch it with my King 3B though, as it can lead to overblow/blattiness.  I'm thinking of ditching the King 3B in favor of the Bach 36 for the sole reason that it works better with my favorite mouthpiece.
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« Reply #31 on: Oct 09, 2011, 07:32AM »

I originally voted for Greg Black, because I played a few times on my teacher's 5G-4G and absolutely loved it. Since I double on euphonium, he recommended trying out a Doug Elliott mouthpiece. It works amazingly for me, by far my favorite mouthpiece I've ever played on.
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« Reply #32 on: Oct 09, 2011, 04:37PM »

FAXX 6 1/2AL.
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« Reply #33 on: Nov 15, 2011, 07:35PM »

Hammond 13s for Conn6H
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Bach corp. 9 for Conn44H

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I'm actually a bigger fan of Greg Black now....I think they're great
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« Reply #35 on: Nov 18, 2011, 10:34PM »

I really like my Warburton.
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« Reply #36 on: Nov 18, 2011, 10:52PM »

The Greg Black has my vote too.
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« Reply #37 on: Nov 19, 2011, 01:20PM »

The Rath mouthpieces gets my vote but I didn't see it so I voted for Denis Wick because that is my second favorite for both trombone and euphonium
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« Reply #38 on: Nov 19, 2011, 02:26PM »

Holton (the old models) and Marcinkiewicz (with the deeper cups) make a few good mouthpieces, but my vote goes to Bach (even though every time I by new ones I need to flatten out the rim with 2000 grit sandpaper).
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« Reply #39 on: Nov 19, 2011, 03:59PM »

Bach  Good! Strange this hated and loved mouthpiece still is the one that all others are compared. The design from that old man Bach must have had something good?

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« Reply #40 on: Nov 23, 2011, 04:15AM »

My JK KBP2C is my favorite mouthpiece out of anything I have played on any instrument ever. The 2A also works nicely in small bass tubas for a clearer, brighter sound. Oddly enough the 2C is actually kind of a tweener for me on bass and contra; I prefer a bit bigger on contra. It's not quite a 100% of the time bass mouthpiece but is close enough for me.
I also really like my Yamaha 60B and Bach 18. The Yamaha is great for small bass, big tenor as a doubler, and euphonium. The 2C is a bit broad for me in, imo, already thick/tubby compensating euphoniums. The Bach is a great Eb mouthpiece and works well enough in every other tuba.
 The 60B is too small for any use in F contra for me, but a friend sounded great on it on his homemade F contra- very F bass like. That's a pretty slick horn in of itself. King bass slide, .562 valves with D on the finger and Bb on the thumb, and the bell off a G baritone. Heavy horn though!
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« Reply #41 on: Jun 11, 2013, 08:52PM »

Bach is over rated, and I haven't tried Doug Elliot yet, but I'm madly in love with my Yamaha Doug Yeo bass MP, original, not replica.
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« Reply #43 on: Jun 12, 2013, 04:26PM »

Most favorite mouthpiece?

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« Reply #44 on: Jun 12, 2013, 04:27PM »

I love my PrimeSlide Design mouthpiece on bass and I am doing fine on an old Bach 9 on my 2B, but lately is leaving that last bit of sparkle and character to be desired. Just whatever works is my favorite. I am hoping to make some money so I can get fitted to a right and proper mouthpiece, Doug Elliott, on my 2B.

So, if it were an option: PrimeSlide Design! Feels so great, looks super, and sounds just how I want to sound Good!
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My mouthpiece isn' :cry:t listed

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« Reply #46 on: Nov 09, 2014, 05:01AM »

Kelly 6 1/2AL not on list but gets my vote every time, never gets cold on those cold outdoor gigs. Before Kelly, always played Denis Wick 9BS.
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« Reply #47 on: Nov 09, 2014, 06:38AM »

"Most favorite mouthpiece?"

Of all time?

Bach wins by a landslide. Bach m'pces are the gold standard by which all others are judged. For me? I still love my NY and Mt. Vernon Bachs on smaller tenors. I also like Doug's stuff. I'm using one on my favorite horn, a Shires .525, and eventually I'm going to try to put together a couple of smaller ones as well. Every Minick m'pce that I have ever tried has been fine; I use a Benge Marcellus that looks, feels and plays much like a 4-ish/5-ish Bach on my .547 when I am using it in jazz situations, and a Ferguson Jeff Reynolds model on my bass.

Vincent Bach revolutionized brass m'pce design in the '30s and that in turn revolutionized how brass instruments sounded and were played. Pre-Bach? Much more V-cupped, much lighter blanks and a hootier, slightly weaker sound and attack profile. Post-Bach? More muscle. That's what I see and hear, anyway, and I have tried a lot of old m'pces on the horns for which they were designed and listened to a lot of old brass recordings.

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« Reply #48 on: Nov 09, 2014, 07:41AM »

Josef Klier
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« Reply #49 on: Nov 09, 2014, 08:48PM »

Since I last posted my PrimeSlide feels cramped and I am getting a DE to replace it. So I will have DE pieces for all of my horns. Best balance of any mouthpiece I have played. I just tried out a Minick bass piece and it was too small for me to work around a full bass bone range, but fantastic! something I could use for 3rd.
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« Reply #50 on: Nov 10, 2014, 04:22PM »

I liked this poll. Learned a lot.

You expect the majority to go Bach or Schilke (most guys grew up on them).  and Doug Elliot has a (well deserved) following here, including me.

I was surprised at how few answered Greg Black as I continue to hear from so many others how positively amazing they are - they've been the "hot" piece in the last few years, it seems to me -- but few answer GB as their favorite.

Also surprised at how many responded positively to the G&W's!   For a pretty obscure brand,  they got a lot of votes.

As for me, I've got the DE system, except with my R4 where I adore the sound I get from my Warburton 8ST.

So, despite using 4 Doug Elliot's and one Warburton, I voted for Warburton - I guess that's because I'm playing the symphonic horn more than half the time these days!

Anyway, thanks for this poll -- I liked it.
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« Reply #51 on: Nov 10, 2014, 04:43PM »

I think you may be surprised how many G&W users there are out there.  They made some pretty serious strides in a relatively short period of time.  I know a lot of tubists using them mostly though.

I also know tons of people on Greg Black pieces, but I don't know a lot who find talking about trombone equipment on the internet to be a productive / interesting use of their time  Evil  I'm kind of kidding, but I know more people playing Greg Black pieces (college level and above) than anybody else, and that's not just in the region.  This poll may demonstrate the "likelihood of a person on x mouthpiece to access the trombone forum" better than the "number of people who use 'x' mouthpiece"!
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« Reply #52 on: Nov 10, 2014, 05:23PM »

Harrison Wedge. Dr. Dave modified a Bach 6.5AL for me. Loved it, then went to Wedge 5GS - absolutely the best for me.
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« Reply #53 on: Jun 04, 2015, 01:12AM »

Have played several Marcinkiewicz for many years and still have some favorites.  Mainly playing G&W now.
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« Reply #54 on: Jun 04, 2015, 01:26AM »

I'm surprised to see that Marcinkiewicz is not on the poll list..
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« Reply #55 on: Jun 04, 2015, 12:16PM »

I'm surprised to see that Marcinkiewicz is not on the poll list..

Me too.  But then I'd never heard of Laskey, Black, Griego, or Stork till I got on the site.  Could be Marcinkiewicz was more a regional thing till that there Internet came around.
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« Reply #56 on: Jun 04, 2015, 12:28PM »

I've been playing Marcinkiewicz mouthpieces for about 20 years.  They have been around for a while.  I like my GR on my King 7B for Jazz/Stage/Dance Band.
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« Reply #57 on: Jun 04, 2015, 01:03PM »

I love the mouthpiece that came with my jinbao.  The one that has no markings to indicate size.  Actually, I'm only being partially facetious, it isn't that bad of a mouthpiece... though I always play alto with my Doug Elliott unless I left it somewhere on accident.
If your Jinbao is a large bore tenor, it's a 5G.  If it's a bass, it's a 1-1/2G.  If it's a small bore tenor, it's a 12C and if it's a baritone, it's a 4.
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« Reply #58 on: Jun 15, 2015, 02:16AM »

It is really fantastic how many good mouthpiece manufactorys there is out there, the list long but nevertheless incomplete. When I was a student in the Royal College of Music there about one, Bach.
After that copies of Bach.
Vincent did show the way. Today there is many mouthpieces just as good or better.
Pickett is another newcommer that is also good.
All mouthpieces that does not fit my emboucure and sound consept may be good for you.




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« Reply #59 on: Jun 15, 2015, 05:23AM »

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Velocity? Confused

They have been making trumpet mouthpieces for at least a year.  Guess they decided to move to trombone as well.  They try to create a vortex in the airflow to get more air through.

Black magic never ends... :/
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« Reply #60 on: Jun 15, 2015, 05:34AM »

If your Jinbao is a large bore tenor, it's a 5G.  If it's a bass, it's a 1-1/2G.  If it's a small bore tenor, it's a 12C and if it's a baritone, it's a 4.

Hm, that's odd. When I measured it, the rim was much larger than a "12C" sized rim. Wonder if mine was an accident. I'll have to see if I still have it and take it to someone with more accurate calipers.
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« Reply #61 on: Feb 28, 2017, 03:07PM »

Christian Lindberg 13 CL Jazz Mouthpiece
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« Reply #62 on: Mar 02, 2017, 11:22PM »

Rath S11 MN... most killer jazz mpce I've used :-P
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« Reply #63 on: Mar 03, 2017, 01:10AM »

D/Wick 9BS, great on a small bore horn and variable with the DW "Booster". Narrow enough to retain a commercial/jazz response but deep enough to fill out the lower range on a small horn.
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« Reply #64 on: Mar 03, 2017, 03:33AM »

I have owned and played mouthpieces from all the brands in the list except Velocity, all of those make good mouthpieces.

For now my favorite is Kurun & Gilbert for teonor, bass and tuba.
For me a very comfy rim and the cup and back bore works fine for me.
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« Reply #65 on: Mar 07, 2017, 08:55AM »

I love  Warburton Mouthpieces. I have played quite a few mouthpieces.I can't say I don't like any. I just have found that fort my needs and wants in sound and style I prefer the Warburton. I use a small shank with two different cups M & D ,different backbores depending on the sound or resistance I want. I use a ST  and two different backbores for all of my large bore needs.The just work better for me than anything else I've
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« Reply #66 on: Mar 07, 2017, 09:36AM »

These days I keep coming back to my Schilke 51. I have recently switched back to a Conn 88H and the Schilke. Someone whose opinion I respect recently commented that I had a "beautiful sound".
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« Reply #67 on: Mar 07, 2017, 12:06PM »

I really don't have a favorite, I play a Yamaha Doug Yeo Replica on Bass, a Joseph Klier on Tuba, a Conn Remington on my 88H, and a Bach 7C on my 3B.  If I had to pick one brand and stick with it I guess it would have to be Bach.
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« Reply #68 on: Mar 07, 2017, 03:03PM »

Overall, I think Doug's setups are my favorite.  However, I'm really liking the Wedge S59 I have right now.  I've got a Wedge rim on the way to put on my DE pieces; I can't wait to try that combo out.
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« Reply #69 on: Mar 08, 2017, 05:25AM »

No love for Jet-tone.?  They advertised and several artists (more trumpet but some trombone) endorsed the heck out of them in the 70s and 80s.   Perhaps the artists didn't like them as much as they let on.
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