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« Reply #20 on: Aug 29, 2011, 04:41PM »

I've purchased (or traded) two trombones from DJ and both times he came thru impeccably. You can't go wrong with him!
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« Reply #21 on: Aug 30, 2011, 03:07AM »

I'll add my recommendations for dj too.  Just took delivery, from halfway around the world and sight unseen, in 6 days, of a 1920's King I needed for a period correct thingy I'm up to. 

Initially it didn't need to be a player but then things changed a little and I needed one that played as well as looked "like new" but still correct for the period.  He came through with an ideal horn that sounds really good too.  The slide, as you might expect, is not perfect, but a little work and it will be perfectly playable - it almost is now.

Thanks dj.
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« Reply #22 on: Aug 31, 2011, 06:47PM »

I think you will ultimately be disappointed if you don't the see the horn 1st. With today's tech., there is no excuse....



But I have bought without seeing it.... it was Carl Fontana's old horn.   :D
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« Reply #23 on: Aug 31, 2011, 07:38PM »

when lawrie asked  --this meant i had  to dig up possibles  --AND TRY  THEM Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused
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those  oldie  non plated inners  are  high maintaince [sp]
after  much polishing  the  old lube of choice--oil
  i think   --if  you  used  one  lots  and got it  broke in  after  a layer  of    slime  built up  it  might  slide  great
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trying these  dust covered relics  was an odious task --until i hit upon the king    which  not only looked 

 


I'll add my recommendations for dj too.  Just took delivery, from halfway around the world and sight unseen, in 6 days, of a 1920's King I needed for a period correct thingy I'm up to. 

Initially it didn't need to be a player but then things changed a little and I needed one that played as well as looked "like new" but still correct for the period.  He came through with an ideal horn that sounds really good too.  The slide, as you might expect, is not perfect, but a little work and it will be perfectly playable - it almost is now.

Thanks dj.
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« Reply #24 on: Aug 31, 2011, 07:57PM »

[[[[[[[  looked]]]]]]]]]    [sorry--glitstzh]
looked mint  --inside case  mint  oliveish   wide wale corduroy --a real time capsule /only  flaw------- outside of case  light coat of black paint --faint gold US  peeking   thru
-----------------for  an oldie --this one is a goodie 
a conn  w 2  tuning slides  ///super early  rudy muck//besson prototype
 the besson  may  have been too early//york pro //
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  well before lawrie  was sworn to  secrecy he  mentioned  some  sort of  adventure escapade  possibly  with  actors   perhaps   documented  etc
  im thinking  it  may  be  something about life in the opal fields 
   a background story  connecting the parents  of 
CROCODILE   DUNDEE     AND JAMES BOND  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  sort of a retro  mystery    w  a tinge of  orientilism 
ala   fu  manchu 
 with  abos     billibongs     --women  ---ok 
    a romance   when  a  cross country  tour  of silver ghost  rolls royces    gets  bogged  down    in torrential  rains 
 and  our  character  who  plays  trombone  in a ragtime orchestra 
falls in love  with a yellow dress 
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 there is  much  more of  course   to the story
  but this is all i have scripted  thusfar
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kids  --ok  you asked for it  a tale of twins  --
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lots of tea       and  whiskey 
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« Reply #25 on: Sep 01, 2011, 04:11PM »

While I can't confirm or deny any of dj's story, I can say that I do happen to be in an opal field as I write - thank goodness for 3G internet access - A place called Lightning Ridge in Northern country NSW...  To be more specific, I'm in a mining camp on "Lunatic Hill" in an area called the "Three Mile".

Think what you will...    Hi Evil Evil Evil :D
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« Reply #26 on: Sep 03, 2011, 09:28AM »

lightningridge  coober pedy  -- famous  for  black opals  !!!!!!!
love opals   opal in matrix --wow  !!!!!!!!



While I can't confirm or deny any of dj's story, I can say that I do happen to be in an opal field as I write - thank goodness for 3G internet access - A place called Lightning Ridge in Northern country NSW...  To be more specific, I'm in a mining camp on "Lunatic Hill" in an area called the "Three Mile".

Think what you will...    Hi Evil Evil Evil :D
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« Reply #27 on: Sep 03, 2011, 10:38AM »

To answer the question, Yes. And I still play it...my '56 6H.

It was in a pawn shop in Butte, Montana. A guy I'd met online told me he saw the horn when he dropped in to browse.

The Pawn shop was just about to list it on Ebay. When asked how much they'd sell it to me and forget Ebay, he said $400. Done. I got the horn. He even covered postage. Such a deal!

Technically I saw it (in photos) but I never had a chance to play it until it showed up on my doorstep.

After spending $35 to clean up the slide (Thanks Eric Edwards!), the horn has been my main one ever since. Oh, I paid another $200 to have the slide lightened. GREAT investment!!
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« Reply #28 on: Sep 09, 2011, 04:58PM »

I must admit I learned a great deal from a horn deal two years ago.  I found a particular instrument in The Classifieds, contacted the seller a couple of times, then made the great mistake of hesitating.  I told him I would take the instrument thinking I had a deal; an hour later I learned it was sold to someone on Craiglist.  That made me very angry because I felt a deal was a deal.  BUT, everything worked out as I found a Martin Imperial on ebay that came with a 7 day guarantee; it arrived and within ten minutes it called my house its new home.
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« Reply #29 on: Sep 09, 2011, 08:24PM »

I bought an Olds Super, ca 1938 off the Seattle Craigslist a few years ago, no pics.  The asking price was $150; I e-mailed the seller as soon as I saw the ad, turned out to be the first reply.  (It was a 2 owner horn, the second got it in the 50s, played it in hs, then it sat in his closet all the intervening years.  Great shape, no dents, a v. good player, no slide or bell locks, original coffin case with a water damaged end (the stored bottom), an easy repair.)
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« Reply #30 on: Sep 10, 2011, 04:44AM »

I'm not sure if I would buy one without seeing it. I am a BIG fan of used, but because I am a kid, if the trombone is  to big for me I can't play it. Therefore, I have to see it, but also hold it.
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« Reply #31 on: Sep 12, 2011, 02:08AM »

a  good description over the phone is  like a live  radio broadcast of  a baseball  game  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #32 on: Sep 12, 2011, 06:10AM »

It's a gamble. Sometimes you win big. The thing is to lose small.  Don't risk a lot of money if there's not a lot of good photo documentation (unless you know the seller.) I can't count the number of times that a bad picture or no picture at all has left me with something next to worthless or worth less than I paid. The last one was a silver 44H. Nice horn, but no slide handle!! How am I supposed to play it with no slide handle? They were telling the truth when they said "slide works fast and smooth." It was self-aligning!!

The best ever was a wall hanger covered with fabric flowers. You couldn't even see the horn under the junk. Bought it cheap because curiosity got the best of me, cut away the flowers, and found a very tarnished copper bell. It was a 12H from the '50s!
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« Reply #33 on: Sep 12, 2011, 07:59AM »

you always take a chance when you purchase unseen, however, I believe that most people on this forum are very reliable.
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« Reply #34 on: Sep 12, 2011, 02:42PM »

I bought my Yamaha 830 without ever playing or seeing one in person, and it was definitely worth it!
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« Reply #36 on: Sep 19, 2011, 01:10PM »

I don't care who is selling it, unless it's a an absolute steal no matter the shape a picture is the bare minimum. A video is a pretty solid idea as well. Even my lousy computer has a good enough video camera to prove a horn's condition and playability.

Plus, having a picture in an ad helps draw attention to it. I don't know why anyone WOULDN'T have a picture in a for sale ad.
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« Reply #37 on: Sep 19, 2011, 02:12PM »

I would never but a trombone without seeing it or playing it first. If I was a collector I would at least want to see it.Only own two, Reynolds Contempora Bass with a Conn 72H valve and my Getzen 1052R.
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« Reply #38 on: Sep 19, 2011, 02:23PM »

I've bought several, sight unseen - and gotten nice/decent deals.

Last 2 horns I have bought, I had pictures - and weren't great deals.
Horn 1 - I could see the damage, knew it needed some work. But didn't see the red rot in the tubes.
Horn 2 - lacquer was bad, but horn looked ok. Once it arrived, the old lacquer had hid many dents/dings in the pics. And.. it also has some red rot (slide crook, maybe tubes too), and the slide (supposedly was good), needs an alignment pretty badly (maybe new tubes, if the old ones have red rot).

So fact is - you get good deals, and bad deals - no matter if you have pictures or not.
It's a chance ya take. You win some, ya loose some.

BUT.... going to someone with a great reputation (like DJ or Noah), I wouldn't need pictures.
I trust their word/description, and reputation 100%. Good!

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« Reply #39 on: Sep 19, 2011, 02:41PM »

I will say that the last trombone I got from DJ almost two years ago, sight unseen, is now my major horn that I'm playing. I would never hesitate in doing business with him at all.
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