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[dj kennedy]

if  you like the yamaha   ------as suggested  there are  variations in  slide widths  etc in various    yamaha  models
furthermore   a  good brass tech   can  modify  or add  parts   such  as a  rest  bar  --the  finger  ring  is helpful  also  

I've tried Yamaha 882GO and a Conn 88HO. Liked the tone of the Yamaha (it was a lot broader and rounder sounding-more orchestral), but I prefer the hand grip comfort and weight of the Conn.  I'd like to find a horn that sounds closer to the Yamaha but is more comfortable to hold for someone with small hands.  I've also read the specs on the CONN HCL and I like the idea of the short throw for the thumb trigger. Maybe I should consider the Conn HCL with a different bell material that will give me a broader sound? Any thoughts or suggestions would be most appreciated.

[trombone addict]

Yes, getzens tend to play sharp. On my getzen I was almost all the way out, on my shires setups, I'm mabey barely pulled out. Funny.

[s3si1u]

I'm not sure about Courtois... Courtois' large-bore (420) models (Challenger, Challenger II and Legend) have wide slides...

The 440 series is their "conn" series. These are the ones with the narrower slides

[daveyboy37]

Don't forget the Kanstul 1588CR. It's a great horn! Comes with three great leadpipes too. I use the ML with mine.

[rpd1218]

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Yes, getzens tend to play sharp. On my getzen I was almost all the way out, on my shires setups, I'm mabey barely pulled out. Funny.

It's also funny that you compare it with a Shires. A large Shires setup preceded my Getzen ... I lost my job about a month after I bought the Shires, got a case of buyer's remorse, and traded it to DJ for the 1047 plus "emergency cash." Truth is, the Shires setup (bought used) was not really the right component combination for me; and I do enjoy playing this one, as "out of the same league" the two may be generally speaking. (except for the tuning issue, that is)   

[hurry]

Hi let.the.girl.play,

Use your favorite Yammy 882GO with Hand Strap(Yamaha TBHS) or
DIY like me.
Clash cymbal strap is convenient for the material

You can push F trigger easily and be free for muscle pain with the strap.

hurry

[trombone addict]

Quite true. They are built quite differently. Both quality horns (well the shires is a better quality, but nothing wrong with a getzen)

[dj kennedy]

the 1047     is  GREAT  !!!!!!
and  the  eterna  TOO  !!!!!!!!!!!!
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It's also funny that you compare it with a Shires. A large Shires setup preceded my Getzen ... I lost my job about a month after I bought the Shires, got a case of buyer's remorse, and traded it to DJ for the 1047 plus "emergency cash." Truth is, the Shires setup (bought used) was not really the right component combination for me; and I do enjoy playing this one, as "out of the same league" the two may be generally speaking. (except for the tuning issue, that is)   

[rpd1218]

the 1047     is  GREAT  !!!!!!
and  the  eterna  TOO  !!!!!!!!!!!!
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Agree with DJ ... many say the newer Yamahas sit right between the 88H and 42 on the sound spectrum, but I personally find them to be a bit lighter, more toward the Conn.  For me at least, the 1047 seems a bit fuller and rounder, while also being "colorable" ... would be curious to try a large mouthpiece, like TromboneAddict's 4G, to see what that does down low.

Rich



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[trombone addict]

I've gotten pretty good results with the eterna 1047 w/ 4g. You have to approach the low stuff ( valve register) with less "bass trombone" air.

The pedal D    (2 octaves below this d) is quite stable.

Standard rotor valves aren't for me, but I can still get a nice fat pedal F on this horn. Pedal Ds too.

[rpd1218]

   Thanks Addict, sounds good to me!

[trombone addict]

The horn is also very nimble, even with this mpc combo. I also find that a larger mpc like a 4G (even greater effect with my Greg black) the sharpness isn't as drastic as with the stock 6.5AL. (personally I love 6.5AL size pieces, but this one by getzen is very.....odd. I don't like it.)

All these observations are largely because the 4G size just flat out works for me (yea, other sizes work, but they are for use on different size horns)

[Duffle]

Try the 1588CR from Kanstul - great horn with Conn width slide. If you have lots of cash try a Rath R4F - also narrow slide like a Conn and one of the best made instruments you will ever get your hands on......................

[trombone addict]

Try the 1588CR from Kanstul - great horn with Conn width slide. If you have lots of cash try a Rath R4F - also narrow slide like a Conn and one of the best made instruments you will ever get your hands on......................

I concur, the Kanstul instruments are really great value.