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« on: Mar 27, 2012, 01:05PM »

The original "Pledge of Allegiance" was published in the September 8 issue of the popular children's magazine The Youth's Companion as part of the National Public-School Celebration of Columbus Day, a celebration of the 400th anniversary of Christopher Columbus's arrival in the Americas. The event was conceived and promoted by James B. Upham, a marketer for the magazine, as a campaign to instill the idea of American nationalism by selling flags to public schools and magazines to students.

Bellamy's original Pledge read as follows:

"I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

Students swearing the Pledge on Flag Day in 1899.

The Pledge was supposed to be quick and to the point.

The Pledge has been modified four times since its composition, with the most recent change adding the words "under God" in 1954.

Here is the latest Pledge of Allegiance that will be approved:

I pledge allegiance to the United States of America, and to the Socialism for which it stands, one nation with no liberty or freedom for all.


 













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« Reply #1 on: Mar 27, 2012, 01:14PM »

... And you'd better pledge to that or we're gonna ship your sorry butt to Mexico! Evil Evil Evil
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« Reply #2 on: Mar 27, 2012, 01:21PM »

The Pledge wasn't always recited with had-over-heart. Some pre-1940 pics/videos of children reciting the pledge provide a rather 'chilling' visual.
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« Reply #3 on: Mar 27, 2012, 01:36PM »

They look like they're doing the Heil Hitler.
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« Reply #4 on: Mar 27, 2012, 01:54PM »

Mr. Dickerson,

Liberals do not believe in Socialism! They believe in freedom and liberty!

I do not know what planet you come from, but the last time I checked the definition of liberty was the luxury of having 1 President, 9 Justices, and 535 Members of Congress in alabaster clad buildings adorned with Grecian pillars in a city thousands of miles away making all the decisions for a nation of 309,000,000 people. That is only a ratio of 0.000000176 to 1!

I love the fact Democrats support giving us so many choices! As long as your choices are in reference to sexual behavior and if you should not have to show I.D. to vote, you will be fine! I am not sure about you, but I hate the burdons of having to think about what light bulbs I should have, how much salt I should eat, what my children should be taught in school, how much water my toliet should use, how big my house should be and how much I should be allowed to keep of what I earn through hardwork. I am glad there are people like Obama, Pelosi and Reid are there to make all these hard decisions for me. I would not be intelligent enough to make those on my own.

God Bless a nation like our where all private property can be regulated, banned or taxed. It is Obama's world, he just allows us to live in it!
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« Reply #5 on: Mar 27, 2012, 01:58PM »

*fixed in next post*
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« Reply #6 on: Mar 27, 2012, 02:18PM »

On a serious note, I do find it funny that we live in a nation where our politicians think we are not smart enough to know how much salt we should are smart enough to vote for them!

OK,

I give up, what the heck exactly are you saying??
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« Reply #7 on: Mar 27, 2012, 03:10PM »

OK,

I give up, what the heck exactly are you saying??


Sorry, I wrote it in haste!!!

Here you go-

On a serious note, I do find it funny that we live in a nation where our politicians think we are not smart enough to know how much salt we should eat but think we are smart enough to vote for our own leaders!
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« Reply #8 on: Mar 27, 2012, 05:38PM »

Here's an example of humor based upon the same basic mindset, only from the other side.
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« Reply #9 on: Mar 27, 2012, 07:23PM »

The Pledge wasn't always recited with had-over-heart. Some pre-1940 pics/videos of children reciting the pledge provide a rather 'chilling' visual.

Matter of fact the hand over heart was adopted as a reaction to the "Hitler Salute".

I reported a lot of this some time ago in another thread.  There were major revisions immediately, in 1923, in 1924, [I think] in 1942, and in 1954 (addition of "Under God" to contrast with the "Godless Commies").

I realized that Dickerson's post was intended as a joke; hence my reply.

I also know that Tiller's post was intended as a joke, but it sounded remarkably like the statements out of the Bush II White House (except with a Conservative slant). ;-)
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« Reply #10 on: Mar 27, 2012, 10:58PM »

Actually, the author of the pledge was a Socialist. I was just trying to complete the circle for him. :)
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« Reply #11 on: Mar 28, 2012, 04:34AM »

Actually, the author of the pledge was a Socialist. I was just trying to complete the circle for him. :)


So was the author of "The New Colossus", from which we have the inscription on the Statue of Liberty: "Give me your tired, your homeless, your poor..."

Socialists can be as patriotic Americans as anybody else -- and a lot less selfish :-P
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« Reply #12 on: Mar 28, 2012, 05:11AM »

Socialists can be as patriotic Americans as anybody else -- and a lot less selfish :-P

It is easy to not be selfish when you are spending other people's money.   Good!


Thanks for also catching my humor in my first post on this thread.
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« Reply #13 on: Mar 28, 2012, 06:09AM »

It is easy to not be selfish when you are spending other people's money.   Good!


Thanks for also catching my humor in my first post on this thread.

What's going on in this country is akin to a story I heard somewhere recently. 100 Americans get together to have a big party. Together they make a huge pizza. They all contribute what they have to the effort. Then, one guy goes over, takes 80 slices for himself, and says "enjoy your dinner." It ain't "someone else's money". It's the GDP we all, from all levels of the socio-economic scale, create together and those at the top have legislated into their own pockets. And, the subject matter of Baron's link isn't really comedy so much as it is the sad, awful truth.
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« Reply #14 on: Mar 28, 2012, 06:25AM »

What's going on in this country is akin to a story I heard somewhere recently. 100 Americans get together to have a big party. Together they make a huge pizza. They all contribute what they have to the effort. Then, the Tax Man goes over, takes 80 slices for himself, and says "enjoy your dinner."

He then takes the 80 slices and gives them to their neighbors and says enjoy your Pizza! Oh yeah, remember me, and vote for me, when I run for Mayor. There will be more Pizza where that came from.

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« Reply #15 on: Mar 28, 2012, 06:27AM »

What's going on in this country is akin to a story I heard somewhere recently. 100 Americans get together to have a big party. Together they make a huge pizza. They all contribute what they have to the effort. Then, one guy goes over, takes 80 slices for himself, and says "enjoy your dinner." It ain't "someone else's money". It's the GDP we all, from all levels of the socio-economic scale, create together and those at the top have legislated into their own pockets. And, the subject matter of Baron's link isn't really comedy so much as it is the sad, awful truth.

Once you spot pizza there for the taking, what you take is yours. If the cooks fail to secure the pizza they make, that's their fault. Just make sure to employ the anti-redistribution ethic after you've taken all you can. Once you've done it once or twice you can then use your excess pizza to pay thugs to take more pizza for you, and you can even call that "creating jobs".
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« Reply #16 on: Mar 28, 2012, 06:44AM »

What's going on in this country is akin to a story I heard somewhere recently. 100 Americans get together to have a big party. Together they make a huge pizza. They all contribute what they have to the effort. Then, one guy goes over, takes 80 slices for himself, and says "enjoy your dinner." It ain't "someone else's money". It's the GDP we all, from all levels of the socio-economic scale, create together and those at the top have legislated into their own pockets. And, the subject matter of Baron's link isn't really comedy so much as it is the sad, awful truth.

Nice story, but if the big party was really analogous to our nation, 51 of the 100 people did not contribute anything for the pizza. They should be happy and feel blessed to get anything at all. Until everyone pays something, even if it is small, the people getting the free lunch have no room to complain.

Demanding you are entitled to an equal share when you contribute nothing is not the way to win support.
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« Reply #17 on: Mar 28, 2012, 06:46AM »

OMG  the old 51 % fallacy

it isn't true and that has been pointed out in these pp threads numerous times.
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« Reply #18 on: Mar 28, 2012, 06:54AM »

OMG  the old 51 % fallacy
 
it isn't true and that has been pointed out in these pp threads numerous times.

Yeah, sure, as if what's real or true matters to anyone. Stop whining and eat your pizza ... be happy there's some left for you, since it wasn't adequately guarded.
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« Reply #19 on: Mar 28, 2012, 07:00AM »

OMG  the old 51 % fallacy

it isn't true and that has been pointed out in these pp threads numerous times.
51% (or there abouts) DO NOT PAY ANY FEDERAL INCOME TAXES.  
The hell with the facts;
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/jul/08/john-cornyn/john-cornyn-says-51-percent-american-households-pa/
http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2011/05/senate-51-of-households.html
http://www.accountingtoday.com/news/Over-Half-Households-Paid-No-Income-Taxes-58240-1.html?ET=webcpa:e1444:84727a:&st=email&utm_source=editorial&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=WebCPA_Daily_050411
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