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[boneagain]

PapaJohn, you're somewhat suspect.

Is there something, other than a trivial error in weight specification, that leads to this statement?

We seem to have a growing suspicion of new members on the board
and that's not a good way to enlarge and improve our community 

[Exzaclee]

i think it was more how his first post read like ad copy.

[tsmart]

Anybody came out with a white one yet?

I know a fella who wants a white one (no, not me).

T.

[bonearzt]

Does the trombone world REALLY need another plastic horn?

Especially if it's a copy of what's out there already?


Hmmmmm.......





Eric

[Bonefide]

Is there something, other than a trivial error in weight specification, that leads to this statement?

We seem to have a growing suspicion of new members on the board
and that's not a good way to enlarge and improve our community 

i think it was more how his first post read like ad copy.

what he said. Someone who joins a forum with their first post being a rave review of a new product makes me suspicious.

I'm with Eric. How many plastic trombone brands do we need, especially from the same factory. Why not just improve quality control on the pBones? I imagine using the same factory to turn out 3 different kinds of the same thing means that none of those 3 designs will improve drastically...

[tsmart]

It's all about $$$

Everyone wanting to make a buck of a plastic bone.

A fella in Wilkes County looking for a white one...

T.

[boneagain]

Does the trombone world REALLY need another plastic horn?

Especially if it's a copy of what's out there already?

Hmmmmm.......
Eric

I agree. All that plastic could go to MUCH better uses...
like vuvuzelas!

[Burgerbob]

if they're all for the same price, then you may as well offer more colors!

[ozreiuosn]

There's no harm in making instruments more accessible. No matter how plastic, cheap or colorful.

[dj kennedy]

poppa john \
  huh  ??????
what about your pizza  bizzness ????????????????????????????

Sorry you think I am suspect, I am just an interested plastic trombone purchaser, but seems like can of worms have been opened. As for the O-Bone pics they are exactly same as Tromba pics so not sure whats going on there. As a mechanical engineer myself I can see obvious differences between my Pbone and the Tromba but cant comment on the O-Bone as not seen for real. So I would say some different molds were needed. It will be interesting to see what happens, I am sure C-S would have made noises before now (or maybe they have) if they thought Pbones IP/patent rights were being infringed by either Tromba or O-Bone.

[dj kennedy]

    can  i  get worms w  my  tromba   ?????????????????
---------
nobody has the tromba   in us  [yet]
  have you  compared  the inner slides 
same    diameter  ??????????
-the  grip  -different
tuning slide   --same ??????
=============================
we  were all waiting for  the  knockoff //clone  --knowing the chinese   --surprized it took this long
  probably made in same facility 

Sorry you think I am suspect, I am just an interested plastic trombone purchaser, but seems like can of worms have been opened. As for the O-Bone pics they are exactly same as Tromba pics so not sure whats going on there. As a mechanical engineer myself I can see obvious differences between my Pbone and the Tromba but cant comment on the O-Bone as not seen for real. So I would say some different molds were needed. It will be interesting to see what happens, I am sure C-S would have made noises before now (or maybe they have) if they thought Pbones IP/patent rights were being infringed by either Tromba or O-Bone.

[Full Pedal Trombonist]

If they do come out with an all black Tromba I think I'll get one. I love going on road trips and don't like to be away from a horn. That would probably be my only reason to get one for now.

I hope nothing bad legally comes from these other plastic Trombone makers...

I'm really intrigued by the use of nonmetallic materials in Trombones. Would plastic slides for brass Trombones be cheaper than carbon fiber ones?

[PapaJohn]

There's no harm in making instruments more accessible. No matter how plastic, cheap or colorful.

I agree and as far as I am concerned its all healthy competition. If you only had one mobile phone to choose from you would soon get upset.

[Matt K]

Except this is akin to having three companies sell the same phone, save the name that was stamped on the back of it.

[bonesmarsh]

PapaJohn, you own ONE HORN and its a pbone???

What kind of trombonist owns one horn and its a plastic one at that????

Oh, wait, you own TWO, both plastic???
Spider senses are tingling.......

No real name, no email address ???????
You're a mechanical engineer without the money for a BRASS horn???
Spider senses are tingling.........


A GOOD used Olds Ambassador can be had for less than the price of a pbone BTW.

[Euphanasia]

Enough.

I don't see what's being accomplished by trashing on Papajohn. We have several members who post primarily about things they're selling. Perhaps he was promoting his own product in the first post. That doesn't give anyone license to be personally insulting toward him. 

[PapaJohn]

PapaJohn, you own ONE HORN and its a pbone???

What kind of trombonist owns one horn and its a plastic one at that????

Oh, wait, you own TWO, both plastic???
Spider senses are tingling.......

No real name, no email address ???????
You're a mechanical engineer without the money for a BRASS horn???
Spider senses are tingling.........


A GOOD used Olds Ambassador can be had for less than the price of a pbone BTW.

I don't profess to call myself a trombonist (yet), that suggests someone who can actually play well, I am still learning, hence the fun bit.

The type of person who owns 2 plastic trombones is one who has grand kids running around the house and break/damage anything worth anything at least with a plastic trombone they can have a play as well. The reason for 2 is my son decided he wanted his own ( in his football teams colours) hence the 2nd purchase. Oh you really are suspicious bunch.

Any way forums are all about free speech so your entitled to your opinion. You stick with brass I am quite happy with my plastic. I would suggest your spider senses have had a dose of insecticide.  Cheers Euphanasia, someone with sense.

[mdunn]

Welcome Papa John.
From one granpa to another who understands the theory of having unbreakable around!
Have Fun!

I don't profess to call myself a trombonist (yet), that suggests someone who can actually play well, I am still learning, hence the fun bit.

The type of person who owns 2 plastic trombones is one who has grand kids running around the house and break/damage anything worth anything at least with a plastic trombone they can have a play as well. The reason for 2 is my son decided he wanted his own ( in his football teams colours) hence the 2nd purchase. Oh you really are suspicious bunch.

Any way forums are all about free speech so your entitled to your opinion. You stick with brass I am quite happy with my plastic. I would suggest your spider senses have had a dose of insecticide.  Cheers Euphanasia, someone with sense.

We

[RedHotMama]

I'm not really bothered about who is doing what with whom. This is a newish product, so opinions about it, from whatever source, are interesting. However, I AM bothered that my pBone slide is crap. Is the Tromba likely to be better-made overall, or is it just that PapaJohn has been lucky with his?

[Full Pedal Trombonist]

Sorry, Papa John. We do have some suspicious people here, but we're passionate about what we love.