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« on: May 08, 2014, 12:44PM »

Here's the stand:

http://www.herculesstands.com/music/BS311B.html#

I have two of these.  I bought them on the basis of the numerous great reviews on Amazon.  So far I have a problem with them...I don't like this tilting function, and I can't understand why it exists.  Is it for tight spacing of chairs in an orchestra?  I just want the stand to stand up straight and not be a problem.

Do you use this stand?  Pardon the pun, but do you have any "tips"?  HAHAHAHAHA THAT WAS FUNNY.
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« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2014, 01:07PM »

For playing on a floor that is not level?
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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2014, 03:26PM »

Yes, this is for tight spaces. It's especially useful for that one space that's free in between 2 saxes in front of the bones in a big band, but with having to sacrifice putting the stand there or sitting in front of it so your slide can unobstructed. With this stand, you can sit in front of that "magic" space and put the stand to the side while tilting it. Also, according to teh Hercules website: "The Tilting Base lets the stand angle from 90 to 75 degress, reaching more positions. Swivel Legs fit around other equipment, perfect for crowded stages. Simply pull up on the locking ring for compact packing."
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« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2014, 03:51PM »

Does it not hold a plumb stance very well?
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« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2014, 07:45PM »

Does it not hold a plumb stance very well?
It seems to not really hold it at all.  I mean, it will stay there, unless the wind blows, or you flatten your music, or...
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« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2014, 09:57AM »

Send it back and get one of these:

http://www.ratstands.com/rat_jazz_stand.html

I've used many of them and they are great!  One band I was in liked them so much that we ordered 70 of them specifically for when we were on the road.

The legs sit flat so even in wind, just throw a sand bag (or your foot!) on them and they don't go anywhere.
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« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2014, 11:00AM »

The RAT "Jazz Stand" looks terrific - but expensive! 

Where can one buy these stands - and tote bags - in the U.S.?  How much $ ?
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« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2014, 11:12AM »

It seems to not really hold it at all.  I mean, it will stay there, unless the wind blows, or you flatten your music, or...

That sounds defective to me. Without having a look at the thing I'd guess the tilt dealie is broken or needs to be tightened or something like that. A stand has to hold fast at whatever angle it stands.
 
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« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2014, 11:50AM »

The RAT "Jazz Stand" looks terrific - but expensive! 

Where can one buy these stands - and tote bags - in the U.S.?  How much $ ?

Well, the website says $176 but I don't remember them costing that much.  Of course, that was about 5-6 years ago.

BUT, to prove to someone how durable they were, we literally threw one down the hall.  No problem!
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« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2014, 05:09PM »

Wow!  The design of the RAT "Jazz Stand" seems great, but $176 (+ shipping, I presume) is way too much.  I'll stick with my Manhasset Voyager stand, thank you! 
[And I could probably also throw it down the hall (well, at least a short hallway)!] 

http://www.wwbw.com/Manhasset-Voyager-Music-Stand-468159-i1413488.wwbw
http://www.wwbw.com/Manhasset-1800-Voyager-Tote-540286-i1151025.wwbw
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« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2014, 06:42PM »

I've been using my RAT Jazz stand for the past 2 years, no problems, can set up with one hand, take down takes 2 or 1 hand, 1 foot (just because the base joints are nice and tight). I ordered it from their site when they had a distributor in Atlanta, but I heard that they moved elsewhere in the US. I paid $148 + $45 for the bag (can't do without it!). Bag holds the stand, music, extra emergency wire stand (because not everyone remembers to bring a stand), lights, and water bottle. I had to apply extra velcro as the cover is a bit short with all these extras in my bag.
My local music store had it at $188.00, was about $510 a year ago. Bit expensive, yes, but can't do without it now.
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« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2014, 07:13AM »

Try the Hercules 408B. I bought one last year and I really like it. No tilt, no perforations to blow the music off while playing outdoors, and it's still portable. Same price, I think.
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