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« on: Oct 09, 2014, 09:58AM »

Auditions for the L.A. Phil principal trombone position were supposed to be done yesterday.  Any news on if they offered the job or trials to anyone, or who happened to be in the running this time?  With Stacy's site being a bit behind due to her other commitments, I figured I'd ask here.

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« Reply #1 on: Oct 09, 2014, 06:06PM »

Just heard that no finalists were chosen.
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« Reply #2 on: Oct 09, 2014, 06:20PM »

Just heard that no finalists were chosen.

Wow. So who has been playing principal? Jim Miller?
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« Reply #3 on: Oct 09, 2014, 06:30PM »

Wow. So who has been playing principal? Jim Miller?

He told me he's been playing in it a lot lately.
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« Reply #4 on: Oct 09, 2014, 07:54PM »

Nitzan set the bar pretty high.
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« Reply #5 on: Oct 09, 2014, 08:59PM »

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Just heard that no finalists were chosen.

So... what do they do next in this sort of situation? I presume this means no one acceptable applied.

Do they send out headhunters to try to lure someone they know?
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« Reply #6 on: Oct 10, 2014, 01:14AM »

http://trombone.myartsonline.com/news.htm#AUD
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« Reply #7 on: Oct 10, 2014, 04:46AM »

It is nice to see John Sipher's name show up.  I enjoyed his playing during his tenure in the  Syracuse Symphony before it folded.
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« Reply #8 on: Oct 10, 2014, 08:52AM »

Just to confirm...spoke briefly to a couple LA Phil members and John was the one player chosen from the audition to do a one week trial. He came all the way through the prelims too!!
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« Reply #9 on: Oct 10, 2014, 03:27PM »

Just to confirm...spoke briefly to a couple LA Phil members and John was the one player chosen from the audition to do a one week trial. He came all the way through the prelims too!!

Thanks, Alex.  Does that mean that Jim Miller isn't in the running too, or only that he didn't have to audition from the prelims all the way through the finals?
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« Reply #10 on: Oct 11, 2014, 04:14AM »

I believe Jim will also be given a trial. The CBA for the LA Phil also gives management the right to invite other players at their discretion. I believe that is how Nitzan, and Steve Witser before him were selected.
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« Reply #11 on: Oct 11, 2014, 09:35AM »

But Jim Miller plays first trombone every week now anyway. How is a trial different?
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« Reply #12 on: Oct 11, 2014, 04:51PM »

Taking an educated guess here...

Trial weeks could be scheduled when the music director is in town, conducting a program, as well as playing substantial rep.  It doesn't serve a purpose to put a player through a week with a guest, and only an overture to play.

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« Reply #13 on: Oct 12, 2014, 08:39PM »

Different orchestras do things differently obviously, but in previous auditions with the LA Philharmonic, in addition to whatever rep they performed , candidates given a week long trial have played solo and section excerpts with the whole orchestra, sometimes tacked on the end of a rehearsal. This is often the first time the conductor and committee has really heard the player in the context of the actual job. There are often other playing events that might be created the week a player is in town. Sometimes it is a solo recital or some chamber music reading.

If Jim is indeed doing a week long trial, I think this will be his fourth time. He really has little left to prove to anyone. He is a fantastic player who can obviously "do the job". If they hire someone else, they still have him in the section! Which is why incumbent acting principals are often at a disadvantage. "Let's hire ANOTHER great player for principal. Then well have BOTH the best players we have heard." The same thing would happen by offering the new person the Jim's job if they hire Jim on Principal. The orchestra management can still bring in outside players for week long trials too. Very often offers go out to players holding positions in other "top tier" orchestras.

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« Reply #14 on: Oct 12, 2014, 08:52PM »

Is this how they managed to have Peebles and Sauer as co-principals for many years?
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« Reply #15 on: Oct 27, 2014, 04:59PM »

Some clarification on the situation . . .

"A quick update regarding LA Phil's latest Principal Trombone search"
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« Reply #16 on: Oct 27, 2014, 10:02PM »

He played with cake? He has my vote, because it matters
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« Reply #17 on: Dec 06, 2014, 01:00AM »

If Jim is indeed doing a week long trial, I think this will be his fourth time. He really has little left to prove to anyone. He is a fantastic player who can obviously "do the job". If they hire someone else, they still have him in the section! Which is why incumbent acting principals are often at a disadvantage. "Let's hire ANOTHER great player for principal. Then well have BOTH the best players we have heard." The same thing would happen by offering the new person the Jim's job if they hire Jim on Principal. The orchestra management can still bring in outside players for week long trials too. Very often offers go out to players holding positions in other "top tier" orchestras.

This.  Jim IS a fantastic player and has been doing all of the principal parts and sounding great.

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« Reply #18 on: Feb 04, 2015, 08:21AM »

Any news on this?
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« Reply #19 on: May 15, 2015, 04:16PM »

FWIW:  Colin Williams is playing as guest principal with the LA Phil for their four concerts this weekend.
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