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« on: Dec 26, 2014, 11:30AM »

I have 6. A Bach 12, Shires medium tenor, Shires large tenor, Shires bass, and a couple of Corp. Bachs (a 42 and a 50). Seems like a reasonable enough number. Play them all, but some more than others.
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« Reply #1 on: Dec 26, 2014, 11:33AM »

A Shires Tru Bore Tenor Trombone
Yahama Tenor XT trombone.
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« Reply #2 on: Dec 26, 2014, 11:47AM »

Yamaha Xeno tenor
Yamaha Xeno bass
Bach 36B tenor
Shires jazz tenor
JP Rath alto
Yamaha 642 euph
Miraphone rotary/oval tenor horn
Jin Bao rotary/oval tenor horn
King double-bell euphonium
Miraphone 186 tuba
Olds O-99 tuba
Conn alto horn (convertable between F and Eb)
(Cringe)...and a pBone
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« Reply #3 on: Dec 26, 2014, 11:51AM »

Copied & pasted from my profile:

1964 Earl Williams 6
1969 Brasslab "Connvertible" Elkhart 88H
1968 Connstellation 48H
1952 Holton 65
1948 King 2B
1935 King Liberty
1910 Conn HP/LP
Blue Pbone


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« Reply #4 on: Dec 26, 2014, 11:52AM »

12, all Olds except for my Bach Bass. Plus an Olds Studio Baritone. Plus 2 Ambassadors that went to a local music store for handout to students and a Pan Am trumpet that went the same route.

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« Reply #5 on: Dec 26, 2014, 12:01PM »

Bach 39 Alto
King 3B
Bach 42BO w/gold brass bell
King Duo Gravis
Yamaha student horn that collects dust in my mom's basement

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« Reply #6 on: Dec 26, 2014, 12:02PM »

1963 Holton 169
1970's Holton 159
Shires Single Valve Bass w Hagmann
Edwards B454e
Straight Edwards Bass w unmarked Holton 9" bell

...4 really - considering the edwards is convertible...
always looking for the next horn...

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« Reply #7 on: Dec 26, 2014, 12:19PM »

Rath R9
King Duo Gravis
'70s Conn 88H
1968 Conn 48H
1927 Conn 4H
Imperial euph
Imperial Eb tuba

I still want a 62H, a small single bass (70H or similar), a .525 Bb/F, and a bigger tuba!  Need to save up though....
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« Reply #8 on: Dec 26, 2014, 12:22PM »

4 trombones and a tuba:
Shires dual Trubore bass
Conn 70H
Bach 50B
Shires Chicago Model tenor (sort of)
Conn 3J CC tuba

Plus I have an extra bell and tuning slide for my bass.

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Rhode Island Philharmonic
Vermont Symphony
Rodney Marsalis Philadelphia Big Brass

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Boston University
Kinhaven Music School
Wellesley College

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« Reply #9 on: Dec 26, 2014, 12:32PM »

1954 Holton Mod. 63
early 40's King 2B Liberty
late 80's Blessing Artist Model B148X
1949 Conn 70H
2000's Frankenbass   Weril GG291 Bell section w/ Conn 62 slide
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« Reply #10 on: Dec 26, 2014, 12:39PM »

very old 2H
very old 4H (I'll look up the dates on these some day...)
Shires .500
1949 Liberty
1971 42/b/Shires TW47 slide
1954 70H
Yamaha 3/4C tuba
Blue P-bone
Vega bell with Bach 34 slide
Olds Ambassador that was given to me that I plan to donate to a worthy cause when I locate it!

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« Reply #11 on: Dec 26, 2014, 12:48PM »

About 10 or more years ago, I donated my old Olds Ambassador to a Cuban music school. A friend took it with her when she went to Cuba on vacation, located a music school in Havana, and gave it to them.
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« Reply #12 on: Dec 26, 2014, 12:54PM »

Dependent Edwards Bass
Mid 60's Bach 50
Bach 42 w/Ed Thayer valve
Bach 36
Bach 16M
Rudolf Meinl 3/4 CC tuba
Yamaha YBL-103 BBb tuba
Yamaha Sousaphone
Rudolf Meinl Bass trumpet

Nine horns. Yikes. At least most of them pay their way.

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« Reply #13 on: Dec 26, 2014, 12:58PM »

Most of my trombones show up in signature below.  I have 7 conns. Conn alto, several Ellie's: 8h, 88h, 12h and 79h, plus Eastlake 88hCL and 62h. Markus Leuchter alto sackbut, B&m Bb tenor sackbut. I have other instruments I do not list in profile.  An olds F alto trombone, Conn baritone from 1920s, con 1945 double bell euphonium,  Besson Crampon 967 euphonium, 1960s Boosey Imperial euphonium, circa 1910 Besson new standard euphonium and new standard baritone, miraphone rotary Euphonium, Tuba MM Eb compensating tuba, cerveny 4valve Eb helicon,

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Shires alto red brass bell nickel slide wBb rotor; Shires Sauer Model; Conn 62H Bass; Conn 12H Coprion; Markus Leuchter Eb Alto Sackbut, Boehm & Meinl Bb sackbut
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« Reply #14 on: Dec 26, 2014, 01:01PM »

1. Holton TR 180
2. Bach 50BG2
3. Another TR 180
4. Elkhart 88H
5. Bach 16M
6. Yamaha 4 valve tuba


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« Reply #15 on: Dec 26, 2014, 01:02PM »

From my forum profile:

Small bore trombones

Olds Standard tenor and B&H Imperial G/D bass trombones

Olds Standard B flat tenor trombone
I use this instrument for French third trombone parts when the section scales down to small bore instruments. It has a dual bore (0.485"/0.500") slide with in-slide tuning and a 7" bell. I usually use a Vincent Bach (New York) 6 mouthpiece or a Denis Wick 4BS mouthpiece with this trombone. I have two: one made in 1917 (silver plated with gold wash in the bell) and one made in 1921 (unlacquered).

Boosey & Hawkes "Imperial" G/D bass trombone
This is one of the last G/D bass trombones ever made, dating from 1978. This is an example of the large bore  (0.5265") orchestral model. The instrument still has its original G/D bass trombone mouthpiece, handle and case.

Besson "Prototype" G bass trombone

Besson "Prototype" G bass trombone
This trombone belonged formerly to Royal Marines Band No. 7. It still possesses its original handle, mouthpiece and case and has been dated to approximately 1948. The bore of this instrument is 0.487".

Established by Gustave August Besson in Paris 1837, Besson & Co. established a London branch by 1850 and was fined for patent problems with Adolphe Sax during the mid 1800s. After the death of the founder in 1874, his widow took over the business (in 1874), followed later by his daughter, Marthe. The company was taken over by Boosey & Hawkes in 1948.

Large bore trombones

Elkhart Conn 88H, 70H, and 62H trombones

Conn 88H B flat/F trombone
I use this instrument for French third trombone parts and sometimes as a light bass trombone when playing with an alto trombone in Classical and early Romantic works. I usually use a Shires Vintage 3G mouthpiece with this trombone.

Conn 70H B flat/F bass trombone
This model dates from 1942 and features tuning in the slide and was manufactured from 1937 to 1955. The Conn factory stopped the manufacture of musical instruments in August 1942, so this is quite a find. It has a 9½" bell and a rather narrower taper, which lend it a somewhat lighter feel compared with modern bass trombones. It is a joy to play and is very suitable for most orchestral bass trombone playing. Played with either the original Connstellation Remington mouthpiece or a Shires Vintage 2G or 3G mouthpiece.

Conn 62H B flat/F/D bass trombone
This famous model dates from 1970, features tuning in the slide and was manufactured from 1968 to 1972. It has a 9½" bell, a somewhat lighter feel compared with modern bass trombones, and produces a classic bass trombone sound. The valves were reconfigured by Larry Minick to produce an open wrap F tube, second valve D slide, and independent levers. It is a joy to play and is my main instrument. Played with a Shires Vintage 2G mouthpiece.

Thein F/D/B flat/A flat contrabass trombone

Thein F/D/B flat/A flat contrabass trombone

This contrabass trombone has a slide bore of 0.567" and a bell diameter of 10.63". The mouthpiece is a Thein contrabass trombone model designed by Joachim Mittelacher - the Thein MCH (Mittelacher Contrabass Heavy) model.

German trombones

German E flat alto, B flat tenor, and B flat/F tenorbass trombones

German E flat alto, B flat tenor, and F bass trombones

Arno Windisch (Dresden) alto trombone in E flat
This instrument has a 7" bell and dates from approximately 1954. It is typical of older German  trombones in having a friction joint instead of a ferrule to attach the bell to the slide, no slide lock, an unsoldered slide stay and a bell garland.

Born on 27 February 1921 in Klingenthal, Saxony, in 1954 Arno Windisch took over the workshop of Friedrich Alwin Heckel (founded 1836), the former instrument workshop to the royal court of Saxony. On 1 January 1992 the workshop was shut down.

Robert Piering (Adorf) B flat trombone, Robert Piering (Adorf) B flat/F trombone
The straight B flattenor trombone was probably made by Robert Piering of Adorf in Saxony in the late 1920s/early 1930s. It has a slide bore of 0.500", a 9" bell, and traditional German snake ornamentation. There is no tuning slide.

This tenorbass trombone in B flat/F was made by Robert Piering of Adorf in Saxony in the late 1920s/early 1930s and I use it as a small bass trombone when playing Viennese Classical works by Mozart, Haydn, Beethoven, Schubert, etc. It has a slide bore of 0.525", a 9" bell, and traditional German snake ornamentation. It is fitted with a tuning slide and has a thong-operated thumb valve with drum spring for the F attachment. The whole instrument is fashioned out of gold brass and has a very warm sound, typical of instruments of this kind from Saxony.

The Robert Piering workshop was established in 1882 and lasted until the mid-20th century, producing every size of trombone from alto to contrabass. Instruments from the Piering workshop, like those from that of Kruspe in Erfurt, were and are highly sought after and represent the zenith of traditional German trombone manufacture.

Sächsische Musikinstrumenten Fabriken VEB (Klingenthal) bass trombone in F
This is a typical example of the old German military band bass trombone with a coil in the bell section and has a bore size of approximately 0.512", 10" bell, as well as the original case and mouthpiece. It has no tuning slide, no slide lock, no water key, an unsoldered slide stay and a friction joint to attach the bell to the slide.

This trombone is, unusually, a post-war instrument from the German Democratic Republic. The Sächsische Musikinstrumenten Fabriken VEB were founded in 1946 and closed down in 1972. It is a real rarity owing to the fact that most German manufacturers ceased making F bass trombones before World War II.

Schuster & Co. (Markneukirchen) tenor trombone in B flat

Schuster & Co. (Markneukirchen) tenor trombone in B flat
Schuster & Co. operated from 1881 to 1943, founded by Arnold W. Ludwig through the purchase of Paulus & Schuster and was a manufacturer of musical instruments by royal appointment to the court of Saxony.

This tenor trombone has bore size of 0.547", a 10" bell and possesses an interesting in-slide tuning mechanism as well as very fine Schlangenverzierungen (snake ornamentations), which protect the bell and slide bows. It also has the traditional German Cölner model mouthpiece. Given the fact that there is a crown in the design of the bell engraving and mention of Schuster being a supplier to the royal court, this trombone was very likely manufactured prior to 1918, when the German monarchy was replaced by the Weimar Republic.

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« Reply #16 on: Dec 26, 2014, 01:03PM »


Alto - 2003 B&S 3049
Small tenor - 1935 Conn 24H
Medium-small tenor - 1930 Holton Paul Whiteman - slide has been abused, poor thing
Medium-large tenor - 1958 Besson 10-10 - ditto
Large tenor - 1987 Conn 88H
Bass 1 - 1962 Holton 169 with modified inline valves from original parts (1969 by Burt Herrick); recently added new slide to long D for second valve. Valve tubing options include Bb/F/Ab/E, Bb/F/G/Eb, Bb/F/Gb/D, Bb/F/Eb/C, Bb/F/D/B, Bb/F/Db/Bb.
Bass 2 - Rath R9 (various parts from various years) - dual inline Hagmanns Bb/F/Gb/D, single bore, pretty standard set-up
Bass 3 - Conn 73H (slide is from a 1967 72H), Bb/F/D dependent
G/D Bass (.5265" bore) - 1969 Boosey & Hawkes Imperial
G/D Bass (.484" bore) - c.1923 Hawkes & Son Artist's Perfected
G Bass (.484" bore) - 1930 Hawkes & Son Artist's Perfected
F valve bass - unstamped, 4 valves, 4th valve two tones with pull to perfect 4th. Czech maybe?
BBb/FF Contrabass - Miraphone

All get used for the listed purpose, barring the P-bone (some much more than others). My go-to instrument is the Holton 169 - what a lovely lovely piece of kit...

Other brass:
Bass trumpet - Schmidtco - ostensibly German, but maybe Chinese? Plays decently enough now I've had a long main slide trigger added.
French horn - Conn 6D (1960s) - alas, I cannot play this well enough to take it out of the house... Very different way of playing to trombone.
Euphonium - 1946 B&H Imperial - bit leaky, I use the borrowed Sovereign listed below instead
Cornet - P. DeLacy - 19th century antique, not in playing order
Trumpet - cannot remember the make - 1930s small bore dance band instrument. I'm no trumpeter.

In addition, I have the following long term borrows hanging around (for a decade or so; they belong to the brass band that I help run and play bass trombone for):
Bass 4 - Holton TR181
Euphonium - Besson Sovereign (1990s)

So what's that? 14 trombones owned, 15 held. 19 brass instruments owned, 21 held. Of these, 7 or 8 cover the vast majority of my playing.


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« Reply #17 on: Dec 26, 2014, 01:11PM »

Lunch break post:

Bach, 50AF3 lots of bells, 45 (in slow) progress, 42 with lots of options (I built it convertible), 36, 16M, 12 in silver plate, NY6, 39G, Weril TIS alto, Besson New Standard Euphonium (in pieces after a valve rebuild), beat to an inch of life 186 BBb tuba.  Olds standard parts horn in silver plate.  Finke bass Sackbutt. Lots of recorders, whistles a couple of beans (snake charmer instruments), of and a great bass rackett.


ps a broken down harpsichord in my garage too!
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« Reply #18 on: Dec 26, 2014, 01:17PM »

1. Getzen 1062FDR Bass - my main horn
2. Conn 88HO with rose brass bell and slide
3. Courtois AC602 "Jazz"
4. King Cleavland 605 - on loan to a friend
5. Blue pBone Eb mini - for my 5 year old daughter to fart around with

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« Reply #19 on: Dec 26, 2014, 01:29PM »

5 - see below

Conn 100H
Conn 44H Vocabell
Bernd Vollers Custom Convertible
Olds Ambassador (Fullerton)
Olds Recording (Los Angeles)
MPC: Harrison Wedge 5GS
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