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« on: Dec 26, 2014, 11:30AM »

I have 6. A Bach 12, Shires medium tenor, Shires large tenor, Shires bass, and a couple of Corp. Bachs (a 42 and a 50). Seems like a reasonable enough number. Play them all, but some more than others.
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« Reply #1 on: Dec 26, 2014, 11:33AM »

A Shires Tru Bore Tenor Trombone
Yahama Tenor XT trombone.
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« Reply #2 on: Dec 26, 2014, 11:47AM »

Yamaha Xeno tenor
Yamaha Xeno bass
Bach 36B tenor
Shires jazz tenor
JP Rath alto
Yamaha 642 euph
Miraphone rotary/oval tenor horn
Jin Bao rotary/oval tenor horn
King double-bell euphonium
Miraphone 186 tuba
Olds O-99 tuba
Conn alto horn (convertable between F and Eb)
(Cringe)...and a pBone
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« Reply #3 on: Dec 26, 2014, 11:51AM »

Copied & pasted from my profile:

1964 Earl Williams 6
1969 Brasslab "Connvertible" Elkhart 88H
1968 Connstellation 48H
1952 Holton 65
1948 King 2B
1935 King Liberty
1910 Conn HP/LP
Blue Pbone
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« Reply #4 on: Dec 26, 2014, 11:52AM »

12, all Olds except for my Bach Bass. Plus an Olds Studio Baritone. Plus 2 Ambassadors that went to a local music store for handout to students and a Pan Am trumpet that went the same route.
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« Reply #5 on: Dec 26, 2014, 12:01PM »

5:
Bach 39 Alto
King 3B
Bach 42BO w/gold brass bell
King Duo Gravis
Yamaha student horn that collects dust in my mom's basement
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« Reply #6 on: Dec 26, 2014, 12:02PM »

1963 Holton 169
1970's Holton 159
Shires Single Valve Bass w Hagmann
Edwards B454e
Straight Edwards Bass w unmarked Holton 9" bell

...4 really - considering the edwards is convertible...
always looking for the next horn...
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« Reply #7 on: Dec 26, 2014, 12:19PM »

Rath R9
King Duo Gravis
'70s Conn 88H
1968 Conn 48H
1927 Conn 4H
Imperial euph
Imperial Eb tuba

I still want a 62H, a small single bass (70H or similar), a .525 Bb/F, and a bigger tuba!  Need to save up though....
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« Reply #8 on: Dec 26, 2014, 12:22PM »

4 trombones and a tuba:
Shires dual Trubore bass
Conn 70H
Bach 50B
Shires Chicago Model tenor (sort of)
Conn 3J CC tuba

Plus I have an extra bell and tuning slide for my bass.
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« Reply #9 on: Dec 26, 2014, 12:32PM »

5
1954 Holton Mod. 63
early 40's King 2B Liberty
late 80's Blessing Artist Model B148X
1949 Conn 70H
2000's Frankenbass   Weril GG291 Bell section w/ Conn 62 slide
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« Reply #10 on: Dec 26, 2014, 12:39PM »

very old 2H
very old 4H (I'll look up the dates on these some day...)
Shires .500
1949 Liberty
3B
36
1971 42/b/Shires TW47 slide
1954 70H
Yamaha 3/4C tuba
Blue P-bone
Vega bell with Bach 34 slide
Olds Ambassador that was given to me that I plan to donate to a worthy cause when I locate it!
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« Reply #11 on: Dec 26, 2014, 12:48PM »

About 10 or more years ago, I donated my old Olds Ambassador to a Cuban music school. A friend took it with her when she went to Cuba on vacation, located a music school in Havana, and gave it to them.
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« Reply #12 on: Dec 26, 2014, 12:54PM »

Dependent Edwards Bass
Mid 60's Bach 50
Bach 42 w/Ed Thayer valve
Bach 36
Bach 16M
Rudolf Meinl 3/4 CC tuba
Yamaha YBL-103 BBb tuba
Yamaha Sousaphone
Rudolf Meinl Bass trumpet

Nine horns. Yikes. At least most of them pay their way.

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« Reply #13 on: Dec 26, 2014, 12:58PM »

Most of my trombones show up in signature below.  I have 7 conns. Conn alto, several Ellie's: 8h, 88h, 12h and 79h, plus Eastlake 88hCL and 62h. Markus Leuchter alto sackbut, B&m Bb tenor sackbut. I have other instruments I do not list in profile.  An olds F alto trombone, Conn baritone from 1920s, con 1945 double bell euphonium,  Besson Crampon 967 euphonium, 1960s Boosey Imperial euphonium, circa 1910 Besson new standard euphonium and new standard baritone, miraphone rotary Euphonium, Tuba MM Eb compensating tuba, cerveny 4valve Eb helicon,
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« Reply #14 on: Dec 26, 2014, 01:01PM »

1. Holton TR 180
2. Bach 50BG2
3. Another TR 180
4. Elkhart 88H
5. Bach 16M
6. Yamaha 4 valve tuba

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« Reply #15 on: Dec 26, 2014, 01:02PM »

From my forum profile:

Small bore trombones

Olds Standard tenor and B&H Imperial G/D bass trombones

Olds Standard B flat tenor trombone
I use this instrument for French third trombone parts when the section scales down to small bore instruments. It has a dual bore (0.485"/0.500") slide with in-slide tuning and a 7" bell. I usually use a Vincent Bach (New York) 6 mouthpiece or a Denis Wick 4BS mouthpiece with this trombone. I have two: one made in 1917 (silver plated with gold wash in the bell) and one made in 1921 (unlacquered).

Boosey & Hawkes "Imperial" G/D bass trombone
This is one of the last G/D bass trombones ever made, dating from 1978. This is an example of the large bore  (0.5265") orchestral model. The instrument still has its original G/D bass trombone mouthpiece, handle and case.


Besson "Prototype" G bass trombone

Besson "Prototype" G bass trombone
This trombone belonged formerly to Royal Marines Band No. 7. It still possesses its original handle, mouthpiece and case and has been dated to approximately 1948. The bore of this instrument is 0.487".

Established by Gustave August Besson in Paris 1837, Besson & Co. established a London branch by 1850 and was fined for patent problems with Adolphe Sax during the mid 1800s. After the death of the founder in 1874, his widow took over the business (in 1874), followed later by his daughter, Marthe. The company was taken over by Boosey & Hawkes in 1948.

Large bore trombones

Elkhart Conn 88H, 70H, and 62H trombones

Conn 88H B flat/F trombone
I use this instrument for French third trombone parts and sometimes as a light bass trombone when playing with an alto trombone in Classical and early Romantic works. I usually use a Shires Vintage 3G mouthpiece with this trombone.

Conn 70H B flat/F bass trombone
This model dates from 1942 and features tuning in the slide and was manufactured from 1937 to 1955. The Conn factory stopped the manufacture of musical instruments in August 1942, so this is quite a find. It has a 9½" bell and a rather narrower taper, which lend it a somewhat lighter feel compared with modern bass trombones. It is a joy to play and is very suitable for most orchestral bass trombone playing. Played with either the original Connstellation Remington mouthpiece or a Shires Vintage 2G or 3G mouthpiece.

Conn 62H B flat/F/D bass trombone
This famous model dates from 1970, features tuning in the slide and was manufactured from 1968 to 1972. It has a 9½" bell, a somewhat lighter feel compared with modern bass trombones, and produces a classic bass trombone sound. The valves were reconfigured by Larry Minick to produce an open wrap F tube, second valve D slide, and independent levers. It is a joy to play and is my main instrument. Played with a Shires Vintage 2G mouthpiece.

Thein F/D/B flat/A flat contrabass trombone

Thein F/D/B flat/A flat contrabass trombone

This contrabass trombone has a slide bore of 0.567" and a bell diameter of 10.63". The mouthpiece is a Thein contrabass trombone model designed by Joachim Mittelacher - the Thein MCH (Mittelacher Contrabass Heavy) model.

German trombones

German E flat alto, B flat tenor, and B flat/F tenorbass trombones


German E flat alto, B flat tenor, and F bass trombones

Arno Windisch (Dresden) alto trombone in E flat
This instrument has a 7" bell and dates from approximately 1954. It is typical of older German  trombones in having a friction joint instead of a ferrule to attach the bell to the slide, no slide lock, an unsoldered slide stay and a bell garland.

Born on 27 February 1921 in Klingenthal, Saxony, in 1954 Arno Windisch took over the workshop of Friedrich Alwin Heckel (founded 1836), the former instrument workshop to the royal court of Saxony. On 1 January 1992 the workshop was shut down.

Robert Piering (Adorf) B flat trombone, Robert Piering (Adorf) B flat/F trombone
The straight B flattenor trombone was probably made by Robert Piering of Adorf in Saxony in the late 1920s/early 1930s. It has a slide bore of 0.500", a 9" bell, and traditional German snake ornamentation. There is no tuning slide.

This tenorbass trombone in B flat/F was made by Robert Piering of Adorf in Saxony in the late 1920s/early 1930s and I use it as a small bass trombone when playing Viennese Classical works by Mozart, Haydn, Beethoven, Schubert, etc. It has a slide bore of 0.525", a 9" bell, and traditional German snake ornamentation. It is fitted with a tuning slide and has a thong-operated thumb valve with drum spring for the F attachment. The whole instrument is fashioned out of gold brass and has a very warm sound, typical of instruments of this kind from Saxony.

The Robert Piering workshop was established in 1882 and lasted until the mid-20th century, producing every size of trombone from alto to contrabass. Instruments from the Piering workshop, like those from that of Kruspe in Erfurt, were and are highly sought after and represent the zenith of traditional German trombone manufacture.

Sächsische Musikinstrumenten Fabriken VEB (Klingenthal) bass trombone in F
This is a typical example of the old German military band bass trombone with a coil in the bell section and has a bore size of approximately 0.512", 10" bell, as well as the original case and mouthpiece. It has no tuning slide, no slide lock, no water key, an unsoldered slide stay and a friction joint to attach the bell to the slide.

This trombone is, unusually, a post-war instrument from the German Democratic Republic. The Sächsische Musikinstrumenten Fabriken VEB were founded in 1946 and closed down in 1972. It is a real rarity owing to the fact that most German manufacturers ceased making F bass trombones before World War II.


Schuster & Co. (Markneukirchen) tenor trombone in B flat

Schuster & Co. (Markneukirchen) tenor trombone in B flat
Schuster & Co. operated from 1881 to 1943, founded by Arnold W. Ludwig through the purchase of Paulus & Schuster and was a manufacturer of musical instruments by royal appointment to the court of Saxony.

This tenor trombone has bore size of 0.547", a 10" bell and possesses an interesting in-slide tuning mechanism as well as very fine Schlangenverzierungen (snake ornamentations), which protect the bell and slide bows. It also has the traditional German Cölner model mouthpiece. Given the fact that there is a crown in the design of the bell engraving and mention of Schuster being a supplier to the royal court, this trombone was very likely manufactured prior to 1918, when the German monarchy was replaced by the Weimar Republic.
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« Reply #16 on: Dec 26, 2014, 01:03PM »

Trombones:

Alto - 2003 B&S 3049
Small tenor - 1935 Conn 24H
Medium-small tenor - 1930 Holton Paul Whiteman - slide has been abused, poor thing
Medium-large tenor - 1958 Besson 10-10 - ditto
Large tenor - 1987 Conn 88H
P-bone
Bass 1 - 1962 Holton 169 with modified inline valves from original parts (1969 by Burt Herrick); recently added new slide to long D for second valve. Valve tubing options include Bb/F/Ab/E, Bb/F/G/Eb, Bb/F/Gb/D, Bb/F/Eb/C, Bb/F/D/B, Bb/F/Db/Bb.
Bass 2 - Rath R9 (various parts from various years) - dual inline Hagmanns Bb/F/Gb/D, single bore, pretty standard set-up
Bass 3 - Conn 73H (slide is from a 1967 72H), Bb/F/D dependent
G/D Bass (.5265" bore) - 1969 Boosey & Hawkes Imperial
G/D Bass (.484" bore) - c.1923 Hawkes & Son Artist's Perfected
G Bass (.484" bore) - 1930 Hawkes & Son Artist's Perfected
F valve bass - unstamped, 4 valves, 4th valve two tones with pull to perfect 4th. Czech maybe?
BBb/FF Contrabass - Miraphone

All get used for the listed purpose, barring the P-bone (some much more than others). My go-to instrument is the Holton 169 - what a lovely lovely piece of kit...

Other brass:
Bass trumpet - Schmidtco - ostensibly German, but maybe Chinese? Plays decently enough now I've had a long main slide trigger added.
French horn - Conn 6D (1960s) - alas, I cannot play this well enough to take it out of the house... Very different way of playing to trombone.
Euphonium - 1946 B&H Imperial - bit leaky, I use the borrowed Sovereign listed below instead
Cornet - P. DeLacy - 19th century antique, not in playing order
Trumpet - cannot remember the make - 1930s small bore dance band instrument. I'm no trumpeter.

In addition, I have the following long term borrows hanging around (for a decade or so; they belong to the brass band that I help run and play bass trombone for):
Bass 4 - Holton TR181
Euphonium - Besson Sovereign (1990s)

So what's that? 14 trombones owned, 15 held. 19 brass instruments owned, 21 held. Of these, 7 or 8 cover the vast majority of my playing.


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« Reply #17 on: Dec 26, 2014, 01:11PM »

Lunch break post:

Bach, 50AF3 lots of bells, 45 (in slow) progress, 42 with lots of options (I built it convertible), 36, 16M, 12 in silver plate, NY6, 39G, Weril TIS alto, Besson New Standard Euphonium (in pieces after a valve rebuild), beat to an inch of life 186 BBb tuba.  Olds standard parts horn in silver plate.  Finke bass Sackbutt. Lots of recorders, whistles a couple of beans (snake charmer instruments), of and a great bass rackett.

Benn

ps a broken down harpsichord in my garage too!
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« Reply #18 on: Dec 26, 2014, 01:17PM »

1. Getzen 1062FDR Bass - my main horn
2. Conn 88HO with rose brass bell and slide
3. Courtois AC602 "Jazz"
4. King Cleavland 605 - on loan to a friend
5. Blue pBone Eb mini - for my 5 year old daughter to fart around with
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« Reply #19 on: Dec 26, 2014, 01:29PM »

5 - see below
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Conn 100H
Conn 44H Vocabell
Bernd Vollers Custom Convertible
Olds Ambassador (Fullerton)
Olds Recording (Los Angeles)
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« Reply #20 on: Dec 26, 2014, 01:31PM »

It's not so much a collection as a private museum...

Olds trombones
Standard (TIS) Large Bore (c.1917)
Standard (TIS) Bass (c.1920)
Standard (TIS) S/SM Bore (early 1920's)
Standard (TIS) Symphony (late 1920's)
Self-Balancing LM-7 (early 1930's)
Military LM-7 (early 1930's)
Self-Balancing LLM-7½ with f-attachment (mid-1930's)
Self-Balancing LM-8 (mid-1930's)
Radio City LM-7 (mid-1930's)
Radio R-7 (mid-1930's)
Super 7½ (mid-1930's, pre-tone ring)
Standard (TIS) LM-7½ with hammered finish
Super LM-7½ (late 1930's - wide tone ring)
Super LM-7½ (late 1930's - narrow tone ring) engraved "R. B. Olds"
Super L-9 w/f-attachment (early 1940's)
Standard (post-WWII non-TIS version - mid-1940's)
Super LLM-8
Standard Bb-F-E Bass Trombone (c. 1947)
Bb-F-E Bass Trombone (c. 1949)
Single Bass (GR prototype? .553"/.565" with 10" bell)
Single Bass (GR Prototype? .553"/.565" with 9" bell)
R-20 Recording
A-20/R-20 hybrid
Super S-20
Opera O-20
Alto F-15
Super S-24G
Custom P-15
Custom P-24G (four of 'em)
Custom P-16

Other trombones
Williams and Wallace Medium Bore
Williams TIS "pre-9"(late 30's?)
Conn 4H
King 1485 Symphony Silvertone (c.1947)
Strickler

Not-quite-trombones
Olds O-20 valve trombone
Olds O-21 marching trombone
Conn 24I Connstellation Euphonium
Bohm & Meinl bass trumpet

I probably missed a few...
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« Reply #21 on: Dec 26, 2014, 01:58PM »

11 bones - 3 for sale

88h 1968
8ht GenII w/525 slide
79h 1966 silver plate
79h 1968 rose brass bell (bell pilfered from '51 78h)
78h 1951 yellow brass bell (bell from 79h above- for sale)
6h 1958
100h 1991 silver plate
Schiller (Jin Bao) alto, rose bell, Slokar leadpipe
Benge 175f (for sale)
Olds Super (war baby- for sale)
Bach 50b3 1982

Of these, I mostly play the 88h with the 525 slide, the 79hs, and the 6h with the 100h slide, in that order.
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« Reply #22 on: Dec 26, 2014, 02:10PM »

It's not so much a collection as a private museum...

It really is. I wish I could visit it...
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« Reply #23 on: Dec 26, 2014, 02:21PM »

8

Jinbao alto JBSL-702L
Yamaha 356 F/Bb
Yamaha 682G F/Bb
Kurt Mönnich german trombone Bb/F
Wessex/Jinbao Bass Bb/F/Gb/D JBSL-831S
ED. KRUSPE german Bass Bb/F/Gb/D
WERIL Bass Bb/F/Gb/D (for sale)
Hirsbrunner 3V Bb Euphonium compensated

In addition, my family has:
B&H alto horn (wife)
Yamaha 448 Bb/F trombone (son)
Hoyer medium bore frensh horn (daughter)

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« Reply #24 on: Dec 26, 2014, 02:29PM »

Bass 1 - 1962 Holton 169 with modified inline valves from original parts (1969 by Burt Herrick); recently added new slide to long D for second valve. Valve tubing options include Bb/F/Ab/E, Bb/F/G/Eb, Bb/F/Gb/D, Bb/F/Eb/C, Bb/F/D/B, Bb/F/Db/Bb.

I am just curious: which one of all these tunings do you prefer? Which other s do you use regulary?
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« Reply #25 on: Dec 26, 2014, 02:38PM »

It really is. I wish I could visit it...
That's why the best parts are on the web...
www.itsabear.com
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« Reply #26 on: Dec 26, 2014, 02:53PM »

Bach Lt12G
2 BachLt16M`s (one w/ Gold brass bell & one with yellow brass)
Lt 36
TR 156 Holton
KIng 2B slide/valve combo
Blue p-bone
Weril TIS alto trombone
Pre-WWI King Euphonium
Seman Bss TRumpet
American Statndard (looks like a french horn) Mellophone (uses  Parduba Double cup trombone mouthpiece)
1928 Conn Eb Tuba
Late 50`s Conn 12J
Gemenhardt piccolo
rmstrong 103 Flute
Artley Alto Flute
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« Reply #27 on: Dec 26, 2014, 02:56PM »

1. 2005ish Conn 88HO
2. 1972 King 3B
3. 1938 King Liberty
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« Reply #28 on: Dec 26, 2014, 02:57PM »

That's why the best parts are on the web...
www.itsabear.com

Great site, man.  Never tried an Olds - they rarely show up 'round these parts, aside from the occasional Ambassador.  Next trip to the US, I'd like to get my hands on a few.  A P-16 sounds right up my street.

I'm a rank amateur compared to some of the collectors here -- I have but 4 'bones:

1938 King Liberty (turns out it is a dual bore, but no "2B" markings)
1990s King Jiggs 2B
2011 (or thereabouts) King 2103/3B
1970s-ish Yamaha 252 (like a 354, Japan-only model)

I likes 'em small and valveless ...
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« Reply #29 on: Dec 26, 2014, 04:55PM »

10 bones at the moment plus several student horns for teaching with and loaning out. Looking to add a euphonium, horn and tuba at some point.

NY Bach 6/8 +16M slide
Corp Bach 36 with Gb valve
Edwards T-350 547/562
Burbank Williams 9
Conn 72 single-valve bass
Conn 62HI bass
2 Yamaha YSL-354s
Reynolds student bone
Yellow P-Bone

Bach Mercedes marching baritone
Conn Connstelation trumpet
King Cleveland trumpet
Bundy II Alto sax
Bundy II Tenor sax
Selmer Tenor sax
Selmer flute
Gmeinhardt flute
Yamaha clarinet
Selmer clarinet

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« Reply #30 on: Dec 26, 2014, 06:56PM »

I tend to be a series collector...
Conn 2H(old and not very playable), 4H(1954..good player), 6H(1974 vintage), and 8h(from 1961).
Conn Constellation series - 28H, 38H(one of my most happiest finds!), and a 1961 48H with a lightweight slide.
Kings..605 - painted to U of D colors, several 2B's(these somehow never have worked for me?), "93 3BSS 100th Anniv. model, 1963 Silversonic 3B-F and A 1963 Brass Symph 9" dual bore.  An amazing 1953 Olds Studio purchased from Euphanasia!! :), and an amazingly modified King 606 that would blow your mind!!  All this among others Reynolds and Roth, etc...Oh well, it goes on and on!!!!
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« Reply #31 on: Dec 26, 2014, 06:57PM »

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Shires Bass - Gold Brass Bell, standard slide with Greenhoe Brace, single standard rotor, yellow C tuning slide, #3L leadpipe, Elliott W111G/M/9 mouthpiece (classical setup)

Shires Bass - Rose Brass T7 Bell, lightweight nickel slide, double stacked rotors, nickel B tuning slide, #N1L Leadpipe, Elliott 111G/K/8 mouthpiece (commercial setup)

Rath R4F .547 tenor, nickel bell, red brass tuning slide and hand slide, Hagmann valve, #5B leadpipe - Elliott 100G/G/8 mouthpiece

Rath R3 .525 Tenor, nickel bell, gold brass tuning slide, yellow brass hand slide, #31 leadpipe, Elliott 100G/D/4 mouthpiece

B.A.C. Custom Classic .500 Tenor, 7.5" gold brass lightweight bell, nickel tuning slide, nickel lightweight slide, nickel leadpipe - Elliott 95G/B/2 Mouthpiece

Rath JP236 Alto - Elliott 95G/B/2 Mouthpiece

Jupiter Soprano - Schilke 24 Mouthpiece

Jupiter XO flugelhorn

Getzen Custom Cornet

Mirafone Loimayr 4 valve oval Tenor Horn - Elliott 100G/H/4 mouthpiece

Miraphone 282 Tuba - Elliott 126G/P/PCE mouthpiece

pBones - Green/Red - great for Christmas! And white.
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« Reply #32 on: Dec 26, 2014, 07:10PM »

Just one!

Edwards T396-A

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« Reply #33 on: Dec 26, 2014, 07:19PM »

7, 6 of which are Trombones

1947 Conn 44H
1960 Olds Special
1973 Holton 158
1998 Edwards 454
2000's Yamaha 613H
2000's Conn 88HT-O

and a 1960 Mirafone 186CC
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« Reply #34 on: Dec 26, 2014, 08:04PM »

1. Earl Williams Model 6-Burbank build
2. Conn 62H-Elkhart with Minick Open Wrap and D-Slide, Minick & Jerry Callet pipes, E. Swanson triggers
3. Yamaha 611-II with split trigger by Rob Phillips--assembly  fine-tuning & slide work by E. Edwards
4. Bach 36, straight tenor, with brass bell & slide
5. Bach 42B conventional wrap with brass slide
6. Bach 50B single valve, conventional wrap & brass slide
7. Bach 50B3, with Greenhoe Conversion by Terry Phillips, Sandhagen rebuilt brass slide, Shires B2 pipe
8. Yamaha YBB-321 BBb tuba- old style model, straight 3rd valve slide and metal valve guides. Looking to replace. Top action not my favorite and horn is really big for my size. Have to use stand for horn!

Too old to buy any more horns! :cry:
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« Reply #35 on: Dec 26, 2014, 08:16PM »

Two, but I wouldn't mind picking up a large bore again for the occasional times I'd need it.
Unfortunately not in the budget.
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« Reply #36 on: Dec 26, 2014, 09:48PM »

BRASS:

Yamaha 882GO
Late 70's Conn 88H
Yamaha 681 straight large-bore
Yamaha 647 straight large-bore (for sale)
King 3B, ropey
1966 Conn 6H
Romeo Adaci Bb/F bass
Jupiter 3-valve euphonium
Reynolds Contempora and Onxy models and another 6H awaiting repairs

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Yamaha pro flute / Altus headjoint
6 other assorted flutes
diMedici alto flute
Bundy piccolo!
Selmer Paris full-Boehm clarinet (for sale)
Evette Master Model clarinet (wow!)
Selmer Paris bass clarinet (for sale)
A few recorders and a fife!

Not as bad as I thought!!
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« Reply #37 on: Dec 26, 2014, 10:38PM »


Getzen 4147IB
Shires 2RVE,TW47,dualbore Rotor
Frank Holton 168
Frank Holton TR150
Yamaha YSL 645
Yamaha YSL 671


Hans Krinner bass trumpet
Wessex Dolce Cantabile euphonium
Yamaha 321S
Amati baritone
Anton Dehmals valve trombone
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« Reply #38 on: Dec 27, 2014, 12:28AM »

You guys ever wonder if posting your collections is an invitation for nefarious people to scour this list looking for homes to "visit?"

Or am I paranoid?
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« Reply #39 on: Dec 27, 2014, 02:34AM »

I am just curious: which one of all these tunings do you prefer? Which other s do you use regulary?

I've played Bb/F/Gb/D (or Bb/F/D when I've played a dependent) since the start of my bass trombone playing years. Second valves in Ab/E or G/Eb I have played with from time to time out of curiosity, but never seriously.

My 169 (still a bit of a rush to write that - bought it in August) came with tubing suitable to create set-ups that included second valve Ab/E, G/Eb, and F/D. Naturally, I played it in the configuration I was used to - Bb/F/Gb/D. But using both valves at once creates something of a resonance dead spot on the instrument - low C and B were not of a comparable quality to the notes around them. One can always work to improve weak spots in one's playing, but I've been playing bass trombone over 20 years now and know my weak spots pretty well, and also how likely I am to be able to strengthen them by particular means. The need to muscle through the change of resonance with double valve playing is something that's been destabilising my embouchure in that register for years. Instead using G/Eb or even Ab/E improved matters a fraction - but only a fraction, and at the expense of pushing the notes further out on the slide and of giving me a new set of positions to learn.

So instead I had a repairman (Bryce Ferguson at Brass & Woodwind in Edinburgh) knock me up a slide that takes the second valve to D on its own, which is what I am accustoming myself to right now. It hasn't taken much accustomisation mentally - just remembering to lift the thumb when the previously additional finger goes down, and vice versa - of course, the slide positions are the same. It makes a physically light instrument a physically heavy instrument - but no more so than my Rath R9. And on the upside, low C and B are just notes now, not special cases requiring gurning. I've been playing like this for a month now, and it certainly does the job planned. The only question deals with whether the relatively few low Cs and Bs that find their way onto my stand are worth carrying the extra weight around for. I suspect it will depend in the future on what particular pieces I am rehearsing at the time.

As an addendum, both valves together now give a rather flat B. This is largely academic, as the double valve response with a couple of new extra curves is worse than it was before, and so I do not tend to employ both together. One can now descend to 3rd leger line G on the 2nd partial, but it's very stuffy. The pedal GG an 8ve lower I have yet to hit while using a sensible mouthpiece! This low range playing deficiency is not keeping me up at night...

So in answer to the question, Bb/F/D/B full time. But although I am liking it, I am still evaluating it.
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« Reply #40 on: Dec 27, 2014, 04:08AM »

Two, and as far as the current Memsaab is concerned that is one too many! Don't know
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« Reply #41 on: Dec 27, 2014, 04:15AM »

One. King 4B from early 1960s.   
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« Reply #42 on: Dec 27, 2014, 04:46AM »

More than i realised!!!

My main horn, Edwards bass
My second, conn 70h
A Bach 42T (before i swapped to bass)
Bach TB200B from high school
Green pbone.

Wow... i guess i own 5. Always thought of it as 2...  :/
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« Reply #43 on: Dec 27, 2014, 05:32AM »

YSL 882GO
YSL 350C
YSL 682G
YSL 897Z
YSL 871 Alto, one of the original ones, not the current model 871
YBL 611-II Bass, lots of customizing
There's a couple of Conn/Bundy/Frankenbone student horns kicking around, too.

Holton Collegiate bell-front alto horn in Eb

YEP 641 Euphonium
Barth Kaiserbariton (Rotary valve euph, straight bell, probably made in between the World Wars)

Old beater Conn Eb tuba
YBB 103 teeny BBb Tuba
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« Reply #44 on: Dec 27, 2014, 06:22AM »

 Bad dog.  No Biscuits.

I could tell...

but...

...then I'll have to kill you  :D

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« Reply #45 on: Dec 27, 2014, 06:50AM »

7.  These 6 copied from my profile:

BASS:  Shires in-line F/Gb/D Thayer valves, 1YT7 Bell, "B" Tuning Slide, Brassark Mount Vernon Bach Leadpipe.
MOUTHPIECE:  Shires New Classic 1 1/4 MD.

TENOR:  Shires 7YM bell, Thayer valve, TB47 Slide, "2" Leadpipe.
MOUTHPIECE:  Shires Vintage 4G.

ALTO: JP Rath 236.
Mouthpiece: JP Rath 12C.

EUPHONIUM: Meinl Weston 451S 4-valve compensating.
MOUTHPIECE: Warburton 4GD.

TUBA: M & M "Fletcher" model Eb.
MOUTHPIECE: Schilke Helleberg.

BASS TRUMPET: 1956 Holton Model 58
MOUTHPIECE: Bach 11C

Plus a slightly beat up Benge 165F that I got a great deal on a few years ago that I lend to students switching to a .547 horn, until they can get their own.

Now , I also have a list of every horn that I've owned over the last 18 years or so, how much I bought it for and what I sold it for.  I have been through 2 altos, 6 tenors (plus 2 additional bells and 1 additional slide), 2 euphoniums, and 4 tubas to wind up where I am today.  Only 1 bass, however.  Since I purchased one of the earlier Shires basses in 1996 I haven't bought another bass.
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« Reply #46 on: Dec 27, 2014, 07:53AM »

Nine (9):

Conn 4H* - Circa 1925, gold plated, highly engraved bell
Conn 6H _ Elkhart, circa 1966
Martin TR-4501 - Urbie Green model, 7.75" bell version
Bach LT12 - Circa 1972
Bach 16M - Custom slide (3B crook without bumper, trumpet spit valve, removable lead pipe - Kanstul H8/Shires 2)
Conn 88H - Elkhart, circa 1967
Bach 42BO - Removable lead pipe (Shires 2/Brasslab MV Hartz)
Yamaha 613H - Bass trombone
Yamaha 822G - Bass trombone
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« Reply #47 on: Dec 27, 2014, 08:03AM »

...
Or am I paranoid?


You are paranoid.  Besides, my collection is guarded by a vicious, attack cat. 
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« Reply #48 on: Dec 27, 2014, 09:54AM »

18H Director Coprion Bell 1963
18H Director Nickel Silver
48H Connstellation (my daughter)
Yamaha 350-C (my son)
2 P-Bones
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« Reply #49 on: Dec 27, 2014, 10:15AM »

Seven that I consider to be a permanent part of my collection, from smallest to largest:

1) John Webb sackbut.
2) Olds TIS with the trombone-playing bear engraving, late 20's.
3) King 3B/F with a nickel wide-glide crook.
4) Bach 36B/lightweight nickel slide. (mid-70's)
5) Courtois 360 Challenger straight; dual-bore .525/.547 wide nickel slide.
6) Bach 42B gold-brass bell/lightweight nickel slide. (early 90's)
7) Courtois dual-independent bass Bb/F/Gb/D with a gold brass Shires bell and
   lightweight brass slide.

There are more. Many more. Hubby's, older son's, younger son's, some that will be for sale.
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« Reply #50 on: Dec 27, 2014, 10:45AM »

You guys ever wonder if posting your collections is an invitation for nefarious people to scour this list looking for homes to "visit?"
If my collection were actually worth stealing, I might worry more...

Be awful hard to dispose of, too.
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« Reply #51 on: Dec 27, 2014, 11:35AM »

Far too many...   :/
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« Reply #52 on: Dec 27, 2014, 12:03PM »

I'm a collector of instruments, mostly interested in having one of each different type, rather than having decent instruments. I've got one of each type of trombone, other than the F Contrabass, and the apparently mythical 'sopranino' in Eb (between piccolo and soprano)

Here's a video demo of all my trombones: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n15d1AEMKTc
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« Reply #53 on: Dec 27, 2014, 12:03PM »

I have gone from 1 to 7 and back down again... Right now it's just what's in my signature, plus a pocket trumpet.

Shires bass- TruBores, C TS in yellow, B62 slide, Corporation Bach bell, 2.5 leadpipe. Gone through 5 other basses (1 Holton and 4 Bachs) in the last 3 years to get to this point.

Beater Elkhart Conn 6H ('56 I think?)

Yamaha 842S in dire need of a valve job

Yamaha 301S marching baritone for sentimental reasons and to noodle on

Allora pocket trumpet for travel! Great little horn, only issue is the very flat 1st partial.
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« Reply #54 on: Dec 27, 2014, 12:17PM »

A good opportunity to make a listing and write down the serial numbers, just in case he's right

You guys ever wonder if posting your collections is an invitation for nefarious people to scour this list looking for homes to "visit?"

But - if I can't find my way through the mess, how should others? Moreover, the real danger resides inside the house ("wife"  :o).

So, here they are...

BACH
12 (1978)
Mercury (1941, 1950)

CONN
18H Tait (1925)
2H (1931)
32H (1959)
38H (1928)
4H (1923, 1925, 1929, 1946)
48H (1962, 1966)
6H (1922/3, 1928, 196?, 1965),
78H (1923, 1937)

HOLTON
Stratodyne (1965)

KING
2B (1937, 1952)
2BSS (1961/2)
2B+
3BSS (1963)

MARTIN
Urbie Green (1964?)
Committee (1953)

OLDS
Standard M7 (1922)
Super (1947)
Recording (1949, 1961)
Ambassador (1951)
P-16 197?

REYNOLDS
Emperor (1962)

YAMAHA
352, 354, 354S

YORK
model? (1946/7)

OTHERS
Oskar Ullmann, Leipzig (194?)
Jazzposaune "Karl Mönnich"
Swiss Army model (193?)
My very first no-name (German) trombone, already an old beater when I started torturing it in 1962  :D



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« Reply #55 on: Dec 27, 2014, 03:00PM »

I went for years - 1985 to 2003 or so with two trombones:
Bach 50B2 (both Eb and D second valve slides)- owned since 1975
Bach 36GLW ( straight tenor - light weight slide) - since fall of 1982

These two remain and are played often.
However - I now have the following:
Bach 36 custom modular with a wide slide, G valve, F valve and 36G and 42G bells.

I also have a 36 silver bell( not sterling), 36 brass bell and a dual bore slide thst is a 36 slide with a King 3B LW tube and 3B lead pipe.





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« Reply #56 on: Dec 27, 2014, 04:49PM »

Too many. Definitely too many.  Mostly caught the disease recently.

King 2103/3B acquired new in fall of 1994. Still have it and love it.
Bach Stradivarius 42T purchased new in 1999 after trading in my 42CO.
Yamaha YSL-640 purchased new in Fall of 2009. First medium bore horn.
Yamaha YBL-621RII purchased used in Spring of 2010. First and only Bass bone. (a keeper)
Kanstul 1570CR purchased new in 2010 as a "lighter Bach 42" after trading in my used Benge 190F.
Kanstul 1588CR purchased new in 2011 as an "88H-like instrument"
Bach 39LT Alto purchased used in 2012 as my first alto (it's amazing)

Only real plans for the future are a straight .525 or a straight .547., and a new case for the 42T.
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« Reply #57 on: Dec 27, 2014, 06:29PM »

I already posted my list... I thought I'd post a pic of my most used horns.

http://i.imgur.com/eZuDJU3.jpg
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« Reply #58 on: Dec 27, 2014, 11:10PM »

Three trombones:

Getzen 1052FD
King 1480 Symphony
Holton 66 Galaxy

Four others:

Kanstul 975-2 compensating euphonium
Conn 16E mellophonium
Bach CR310 cornet
Getzen 383 frumpet

Plus six coach horns.
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« Reply #59 on: Dec 28, 2014, 10:55AM »

A bunch:

Trumpets:

B-Flat


Yamaha 738 (modified)

Benge 2X+ (restored)

Olds Ambassador   

Holton Student Model

Holton MF Horn

Other Keys

Benge 90C

Holton Eb/D

Dillon Piccolo   

Cornets:

Olds Ambassador (Short)   

Flugelhorns:

Cousenon

Blessing

Trombones:

Jupiter Soprano   

JinBao Alto

Pbone Mini (Eb Alto)

Pbone   

Tromba    

Reynolds slide bone (.490)

Reynolds valve bone

Olds Marching Trombone   

Bach 36G (.525)   

Benge 190 (.547)

Getzen 3062 (.568)

Other:

Conn Alto Horn (Eb)

Olds Ambassador Baritone

Conn Tuba (Eeb)   
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« Reply #60 on: Dec 28, 2014, 11:55AM »

Four, but only one of them is a trombone, a medium-bore Yamaha with F valve. She Whose Utterances Must Be Acknowledged is happy that I sold my .500 Bach straight horn to a good home soon after the other one arrived.

A beat-up BSA bugle gathers dust high above the mantel.

A 1960 or '61 Conn Director cornet sits in its case, in good playing order.

An old Courtois saxhorn in the euph range sits bell-down on the floor next to the trombone stand, played often. I call it the "funnel of love," when I'm not calling it the dribblehorn or the popcorn catcher. So far, She has not actually thrown bonbon-sized objects into the bell while I'm playing, for which I am thankful.

The didge in D doesn't count as a horn, so I won't mention it further.
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« Reply #61 on: Dec 28, 2014, 03:19PM »

I think threads like this. It makes me feel that hoarding a wide range of wind instruments might not be so abnormal after all.  :D

Michael Rath R2 tenor trombone (Nickel Bell) 2008 My Main horn. Bought 2ndhand via ebay from a pro in North London. Still using the Laskey 50C gobiron courtesy of Slidennis.
Conn 6H tenor trombone , 1957 - Was an ebay beat up but the slide is working well now (courtesy of Rath's) that I could easily use it as my main horn again. Richer more complex sound than the R2 configuration but not as smooth/silky.
Conn 8H large-bore tenor trombone, - Also ebay. Sold my 88H sometime after getting this. I haven't played in brass bands or orchestras for a while but keep this one to keep my options open. Intend to dust this one down soon.
B&S alto trombone, - Old East German. Saw it in a music shop going for very little in the late 80's. Had a play on it recently but I used to use it.
Bauhaus bass trombone, - very cheap Chinese double plug bass trombone. Bought it from the importer. Plays fine and nice to own.
Olds marchingbone flugabone - Another ebay find. Fun to play occasionally. I like it with an old Conn 3 mouthpiece. Not a loud horn.
King 2B Valve trombone - on loan to a student. I used to play king trombones.
Bb tuba - Brandless Chinese from a German ebay trader. Have depped in a brass band and at work on it a few times. The German style rotary valve tuba really confuses people around here.
'Gear 4 Music' Baritone Sax Chinese made shop brand bought privately via a sax forum near 3 years ago. My first saxophone. A fun double in the ska band. Have also played it at work.
Bauhaus M2E tenor sax - Taiwan made and very nice. Bought it new from the importer. Play it most at church and sit in school concert band on it at work.
Yamaha student alto sax - picked up for a good price on vacation. Maybe aim to play it at church sometime.
Leblanc 'paperclip' Eb contra clarinet - 60's instrument via Ebay. Spent a lot of money getting it into good playing condition. Figured out how to play it a little then stopped because although I like it, I still haven't found a use for it yet. Might sell it.
Akai EWI4000s - ebay - another doubling instrument for the ska band.

Have also previously played baritones/euphoniums but never bought my own. Also have keyboards.  I bought a french horn once was put off by the small mouthpiece. My wife plays trumpets/cornets/flugel and saxes.
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« Reply #62 on: Dec 28, 2014, 03:41PM »

I have 5

Courtois Alto
Bach 36B
Bach 42A
Bach 42LTBG
Schilke St-20
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« Reply #63 on: Dec 28, 2014, 05:22PM »

6:

JinBao Alto with BrassArk Slokar leadpipe
Davis Shuman and Son Model 128 angular trombone
Benge 190F
Shires/Edwards Bass Trombone (BII 1Y Bell, gold brass C tuning slide, traditional rotors, Edwards dual bore slide)
Shires Proselect Gold Brass Bass Trombone
Miraphone 1258A Euphonium with custom main tuning slide trigger

Plus a couple of beater straight trombones I'll either sell off cheap or turn into lamps.
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« Reply #64 on: Dec 29, 2014, 08:05AM »

JinBao Alto with BrassArk Slokar leadpipe
Bach 16 M LT
Bach 42 LT Corporation
Bach 42A
Bach 36 Corporation
Bach 50B Corporation (single)
Conn 88H
Rath R4 (yellow and rose brass bells) with Rotax
Rath R3 rose brass tuning slide

My favorite combo for most any setting is Rath 4 yellow bell, red brass TS and R3 yellow slide. Still looking for a bronze R4 slide however.
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« Reply #65 on: Dec 29, 2014, 08:14AM »

Trombones are not "horns"  Clever
 
but here's my list

Shires 7YLWSP:TB47:Trubore:TGS:2SS
Shires BII7YM:B62:ind. Trubore:BCRS:B2
Shires 7GLW8:T25NLW:TY:MT2/M2
Shires S1YM8:T00LW:T0 1.5N
Shires A7YLW w/ gold brass back bow:A85-95:T85 2
Ewald Meinl model Drewelwecz tenor baroque trombone
Ewald Meinl model Nagel alto baroque trombone
Thein "Alessi model" baßtrompete in C/Bb
Besson 2052 Prestige Euphonium
Besson 2056 Prestige Baritone
Besson USA flugelbone (Kanstul 955 stencil)
Couesnon 11-key Ophicleide in C (1902)
Boston upright SARV Baritone Saxhorn (ca. 1870)
Boston HP Baritone Horn (1900)
Pierre Ribo 4-key Serpent in C (in the mail)

also have a few extra Shires bells and slides I can switch in and out if need be, but not complete instruments.
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« Reply #66 on: Dec 29, 2014, 03:33PM »

I feel like a pauper compared to all of you.

1960's King 3 B constellation tenor trombone

1960's Conn 72H modified by Larry Minick to Bb/F/G/Eb with a red brass Artistic Red Brass Bell

1960's Bach 50B modified by Larry Minick to Bb/F/D

2001 Shires 2RLW dual bore slide Bb/F/D my main instrument

Weril 3/4 BBb Tuba

1960's Yamaha 321S Euphonium actually a prototype
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« Reply #67 on: Dec 29, 2014, 03:51PM »

Trombones
Getwards 1062FD (2000's) (Stock Getzen 1062FDR Bell Section, Single bore Edwards Slide)
Holton TR 185 (1960's) (Minick Style open wrap)
Kanstul 970 (2010) (Gold Brass Bell)

Euphoniums
Kanstul 975 Euphonium (2007) (Prototype horn, 11 inch British Style Gold Brass Bell)
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« Reply #68 on: Dec 29, 2014, 05:05PM »

I feel like a pauper compared to all of you.

1960's King 3 B constellation tenor trombone

1960's Conn 72H modified by Larry Minick to Bb/F/G/Eb with a red brass Artistic Red Brass Bell

1960's Bach 50B modified by Larry Minick to Bb/F/D

2001 Shires 2RLW dual bore slide Bb/F/D my main instrument

Weril 3/4 BBb Tuba

1960's Yamaha 321S Euphonium actually a prototype

ummm...wha??
dude! you have 2 minick-ized basses! really??
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« Reply #69 on: Dec 29, 2014, 05:54PM »

Conn Elkhart 88H
King 3B
Conn 14H (marching horn)
Yamaha Dependent Bass
Yamaha YEP-321 Euphonium
Yamaha YBB-321 Tuba
King 606 Trumpet (play occasional taps with it)

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« Reply #70 on: Dec 29, 2014, 06:12PM »

1 trombone.
Conn 110H
1 euphonium
B&H Sovereign
3 tubas.
Conn 20J
Conn 25J
Mirafone 186 BBb
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« Reply #71 on: Dec 29, 2014, 06:14PM »

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« Reply #72 on: Dec 29, 2014, 07:05PM »

It's obvious that I'm not a horn collector since I have only two.

King 2bg+
Kanstul 1550

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« Reply #73 on: Dec 30, 2014, 04:01AM »

If this is a trombone for you :

http://www.horn-u-copia.net/instruments/Thibouville/Thibouville-Lamy-Trombone.jpg

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« Reply #74 on: Dec 30, 2014, 05:29AM »

It's obvious that I'm not a horn collector since I have only two.

King 2bg+
Kanstul 1550



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« Reply #75 on: Dec 30, 2014, 05:46AM »

I sold it to Zac HoustonBassTrombone Thornton.
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« Reply #76 on: Dec 30, 2014, 06:12AM »


Very nice! Does it play like it looks?
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« Reply #77 on: Dec 30, 2014, 09:03AM »

5 - listed below:

but who cares - this thread gets more hilarious by the minute.  It's like a one-up competition in obsession (or crazy)

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« Reply #78 on: Dec 30, 2014, 09:40AM »

I guess its true our horns are representative of us so with a Eastman 310, a Blessing B7, a Blessing B88, and a Reynolds Contempora 72x - Philharmonic Bass (My 1950's baby I have around 30 years), I suppose I am a older returning student (310)with intermediate skills (B7,B88)with a sentimental side that knows a good one, and holds it through thick and thin (my Reynolds)!!! You can also say I am one to cover all bases hence a .500, .525, .547 and a .564   HAPPY NEW YEAR to all on the forum.  :)
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« Reply #79 on: Dec 30, 2014, 11:23AM »

I have always been wanting to pick up a tuba and/or ephonium.  But I think I'm pretty much done with trombones.  I have the ones I have for specific purposes. 

The 3B is the small ensemble or big band horn. Maybe for pit depending on what the show would be.

The Yamaha 640 is small ensemble, pit, or maybe 1st in orchestra. Also good for solos.

The 1570 is my Bach-like horn that isn't quite as much of a sound cannon as the 42T is. It's a great horn, great sound, and is more nimble than the back.

The 1588 is my conn horn and/or solo horn. If I'm stuck with a bunch of conns or conn-like instruments in an orchestra, I bring the 1588.

The 42T is a great cannon for lower parts, and can play the 3rd or bass trombone parts in a lot of stuff, as we have a very small orchestra.

And the bass and alto horns are there for when a bass or alto is truly needed.
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« Reply #80 on: Dec 30, 2014, 01:45PM »

1932 Conn 78h (thanks to Greenbean Good!)
1983 Special order Jiggs 2b with a gold brass bell (thanks to Koz Pant)
2007 Nickel Silver Rath R2
2014 Rath R3F with Rotax Valve
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« Reply #81 on: Dec 30, 2014, 03:52PM »

I honestly don't know how many I have... they are mostly tucked away. There are a few tubas, valve trombones, tenors, lots of basses, tibetan trumpets, it's all a little fluid most of the time... stuff coming and going.... but I know there are people here with more  Evil Evil
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« Reply #82 on: Dec 30, 2014, 04:03PM »

I honestly don't know how many I have...
I use that one all the time... :D
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« Reply #83 on: Dec 30, 2014, 06:34PM »

Try this one:

Question: how many trombones do you have?

Answer: how many trombones should I have?
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« Reply #84 on: Dec 31, 2014, 12:28AM »

Very nice! Does it play like it looks?


Yes, like a slide bass trumpet!
Or a sakebut maybe...
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« Reply #85 on: Dec 31, 2014, 03:10AM »

Started playing 60 years ago on a Besson Peashooter tenor
Bought a Besson Stratford tenor in 1958 when I left school
Bought a King 3B+ Bb/ F tenor in 1980
Bought a Bach 36B Bb/ F tenor in 1988
Bought a Yamaha YBL 311 Bass 2nd hand in 1988
Bought a Rath R9 in line with a bronze slide, red brass tuning slide and 2 bells- red brass and yellow brass, in 2006 at ITF 2006 Birmingham UK.
In 2012 I decided an alto would be fun to try and that trying to play it would stimulate the mind. Bought an I&K Chinese alto (Good fun!)
Also, I have had a Boosey and Hawkes Emperor trumpet since 1955 and a Boosey and Hawkes Imperial Euphonium (1938 vintage) since 2008 (Cost AUS$20-00)

 As I play Bass trombone in local orchestras nearly always,I use the Rath mostly these days but it is fun to try to keep up on them all.

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« Reply #86 on: Jan 07, 2015, 12:49AM »

this question allways frightens me...

I don't really need more than one horn (there is no way to play 2 on the same time righ?¿) but I own 5 trombones and have a tuba and a trumpet also... Fortunatelly one of the trombones is a lamp now...
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« Reply #87 on: Jan 07, 2015, 12:24PM »

.485 / 7   : Bach 6iii
.500 / 8   : pBone
.508 / 8   : King 3b
.525 / 8   : Bach 36
.547 / 8.5: Shires (Conn-like configuration)
.562 / 9.5: Shires (BII7YM / independent / B62NYC)

Plus a Yamaha 641 euphonium, my old student trombone(Bach), and my dad's old student trumpet (King)

So, I guess I have 9. That seems about the right number (but I wouldn't mind trying a Shires 7YM tenor bell).
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« Reply #88 on: Jan 07, 2015, 02:47PM »

I just made a list for insurance, so I guess I'll list 'em here too. It is a little scary to see it on the screen though- it doesn't SEEM like I have many.  Eeek!

R. Egger Renaissance slide trumpet
Meinl & Lauber alto baroque trombone (sackbut)
A. Egger tenor baroque trombone (sackbut)
M. Leuchter bass baroque trombone (sackbut)

R. Egger classical tenor trombone

~1900 LeFevre
  1910 Holton Special
~1910 R. Schopper tenor/bass

1962 King 2b Silversonic

1970s? 80s? Yamaha Williams 9 copy

Early 90s Shires era .547/.562 Edwards Thayer
Early 90s Shires era .547 Edwards straight
Early 90s Yamaha ysl-671 alto

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« Reply #89 on: Jan 07, 2015, 03:04PM »

ALTO:

- Conn 36H
- JP/Rath 236

TENOR (SMALL):

- King 606
- JP/Rath 230
- pBone red
- Martin
- Bach LT16M
- Conn 22H

TENOR (MEDIUM):

- Hulot .525"-.547"
- JP/Rath 231

TENOR (LARGE):

- Bach LT42 (customized)
- Bach 42A
- Bach 42BG (customized)
- Bach 42T (customized)
- Edwards T-350E
- Edwards T327/350
- King 4B Sonorous
- Shires 1YM, axial, B62

BASS:

- Besson BE943 (FOR SALE!!)




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« Reply #90 on: Jan 07, 2015, 09:39PM »

I have two but one is for sale.

1984 Bach 42B, old reliable and it has been my horn since high school despite the 5 or 6 I have owned and sold.

Elkhart 8H, I recently required this horn but truth be told I'm just not a Conn guy and I prefer my Bach

Great thread!! Idea!
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« Reply #91 on: Jan 09, 2015, 08:16AM »

3 (two large bore tenors, one alto)

-Edwards T-350-CR-E

-Bach42T with Edwards Axial flow valve, BrassArk MTV50 leadpipe and a lightweight bass slide.

-Yamaha Xeno Alto
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« Reply #92 on: Jan 12, 2015, 01:46PM »

I have a 61 6h with a 3b slide crook, lightened slide, and interchangeable pipes of the 6h pipe or a bach 12 pipe

I have a 60s 48h constellation

A fullerton olds studio that has the nickel silver / brass bell

And an early reynolds professional model that predates the contemporas and all of those models, it is very king like

How's my collection going and what all do y'all have ? Hard to make time  for em all but they are all great
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« Reply #93 on: Jan 15, 2015, 02:34PM »

Annoyingly, a couple more followed me home for about the cost of a nice dinner for two. I'm pretty sure my wife would've preferred the dinner, but I couldn't resist. Changes are in bold.

I just made a list for insurance, so I guess I'll list 'em here too. It is a little scary to see it on the screen though- it doesn't SEEM like I have many.  Eeek!

R. Egger Renaissance slide trumpet
Meinl & Lauber alto baroque trombone (sackbut)
A. Egger tenor baroque trombone (sackbut)
M. Leuchter bass baroque trombone (sackbut)

R. Egger classical tenor trombone

~1900 LeFevre
  1910 Holton Special 3
~1910 R. Schopper tenor/bass
  1914 Holton Special 2

1951 King 2b Liberty
1962 King 2b Silversonic

1970s? 80s? Yamaha Williams 9 copy

Early 90s Shires era .547/.562 Edwards Thayer
Early 90s Shires era .547 Edwards straight
Early 90s Yamaha ysl-671 alto

So that's 15.




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« Reply #94 on: Jan 16, 2015, 12:03PM »

Yamaha YSL-697 Black Phoenix (2009)
King 2102SS (2005 ??)
King 2103PLG (2014)
Bach LT42T with opt factory lead pipes (1998, early factory model with the Ed Thayer Valves, not OE Thayer)
Getzen 3062AF (2010)
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« Reply #95 on: Jan 18, 2015, 05:43PM »

Down to only two (trombones).

Yamaha 653R .500 bore. Yellow brass outers, rose brass bell. Very sweet sound. Very articulate. Best slide I've ever tried. 

King 2104 (4B) .547 bore. Straight tenor, no trigger. Nickle silver outers, rose brass bell. Slide quicker than expected.
Still getting used to it and trying mouthpieces.

I'm hoping the King will bring more power, impact to street band performances.

Oooops.... forgot about this one....
Olds Marching Trombone... .520 bore, very soft attach unless you really hit it. You can use a deep V Bach 19 to make it really soft, or a schilke 40B or yamaha 48A to make it more like a trombone.
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« Reply #96 on: Jan 18, 2015, 07:41PM »

Four and a half.

The workhorses.
1962 H.N. White 3B with a Kanstul H8 in 'bronze'
... and an 80s 3B/F bell, thus the half.
1948 H.N. White 1480 (Precursor to Symphony and 5B) Silver-plated, .536/.546, Brown & Sharpe shank.
(All acquired through DJ, thanks a ton!)

And then the fun/experimental ones.
1918 H.N. White .508 8" slide-tuning. Fun! The bell throat opens up and the taper flares a lot faster than a 3B.
    Best backup horn I've ever used, but slide-heavy. Working on a way to fix that. (Thanks, greenbean!)
1910 H.N. White  ... Solo Artist model? 6.5" bell, .460 bore? Probably the closest to Teagarden I'll ever sound.
    (Thanks, ebay!)

I've parted with the rest, student models and such and my first pro horn, a 36BO which just stopped suiting me. Sentimentality sometimes gets outvoted by dollars, alas.
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« Reply #97 on: Jan 19, 2015, 01:52PM »

In order of playing:

Getzen 3062AF - main instrument
Cerveny AEB 614 - 4 rotor valve Eb Tuba
Conn 88h - 60s bell section and early Abilene slide
King 3b Concert - mid 60s
Yamaha 321 Euphonium
Conn 44h Voca Bell
Selman (Jin Bao) alto
King Bell front Baritone-Satin Silver
2 Olds Ambassadors-student horns, one plays, one parts
Frank Eb Tuba
A few other Melophones, cornets, etc.

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« Reply #98 on: Jan 19, 2015, 03:18PM »

Let's see if I can remember;

2 Holton TR-100s
2 Martin Urbie Greens
3 Holton Galaxies
Selmer Bolero
Holton TR-156
Holton TR-680
Holton 69
Holton TR-690
2 Martin Imperials
Martin TR-4525
Vito TR-501
Wessex PB/F-525
Wessex PB-4501
Wessex Lg. bore Alto
Wessex PB/F-562 single valve Bass
Various antique trombones (mostly French)
Olds floor lamp trombone (it was unplayable, so I made a lamp)

I think that's all...    Chip
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« Reply #99 on: Jan 20, 2015, 02:15AM »

3
Elkhart H-series 6H & 8H + N series 88H.
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« Reply #100 on: Jan 20, 2015, 03:00AM »

Hi,
I thought it might be fun to list what I have here in my study
16 usable instruments plus quite a few bits and pieces
Getzen 4047IB Bousfield 2014
Conn 88h 1969
88h 1959
88h 1967
8h 1967
8h bell only undatable but Elkhart 60's from the engraving matched to 88H Elkhart slide 1965, and a tuning slide from any of my other Conns
Conn 4H 1944
Conn 78H 1960
Kruspe Model Weschke (undatable but certainly between ww1 and ww2)
Lätzsch Modell Kuhn Weite 4
Glassl alto with valve and Kruspe style bell
Ewald Meinl sackbutt model Drewelwecz
Glassl alto sackbutt
Ewald Meinl Classical alto
Courtios 1920´s small bore silver
Courtois Super Swing 1950´s
Conn 2H bell no slide
Glassl tenor Kuhn copy not operational



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« Reply #101 on: Jan 20, 2015, 03:27AM »

Now list your mouthpieces Tim!  :D
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« Reply #102 on: Jan 20, 2015, 03:48AM »

Ok i'll play too:

Soprano
MAIN red
Alto
Lätzsch
Tenor
Greenhoe Custom TIS Red Brass Bell, Yellow Brass Valve Section(.547)
Yamaha YSL-640 (.525)
pBone green
Bass
Greenhoe Custom TIS Red Brass Bell, Yellow Brass Valve Section
Edwards B454
Bach 50B Single valve
Rath R9
Böhm & Meinl baroque bass trombone replica (in F) (disturbingly this has the word "Symphonic" engraved on the bell!!)
Contrabass
Thein Ben v Dijk model
Tuba
Yamaha YEB-632 (Eb)
Besson 983 Eb Front Action
Besson 982 Eb 3-1 Configuration
Miraphone 1291 5 valve CC
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« Reply #103 on: Jan 20, 2015, 08:17AM »

This seems fun,

Trumpet: King Silver Flair
Bugle: Getzen, and an older Scout model
Alto: Yamaha 671
Small Tenor: Yamaha 354
                      King Tempo
Large Tenor: 1968 Bach 42B, Gold brass bell, Edwards hand slide
                      Edwards T350E, Red brass bell, Bass hand slide
                      Yamaha 448G
Bass: Mack Brass branded TB 831
Tuba: 1912 York Eb (with beautiful blue/purple tarnish!!!)
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« Reply #104 on: Jan 20, 2015, 05:51PM »

Small bore tenors: Yamaha 354, Bach Soloist
Large bore tenors: Getzen 3047AF
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« Reply #105 on: Jan 20, 2015, 09:32PM »

still counting
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« Reply #106 on: Jan 20, 2015, 10:57PM »

still counting
DJ, do you count trombones instead of sheep when you can't sleep?
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« Reply #107 on: Jan 21, 2015, 05:11AM »

i  have  trombone  features in my dreams  !!!!!


DJ, do you count trombones instead of sheep when you can't sleep?
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« Reply #108 on: Feb 05, 2015, 04:29PM »

I have two Trombones and a Trumpet. Trombones include a Yamaha YSL-354 and an Elkhart Cavalier. The Trumpet is a very old East-European stencil horn.
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« Reply #109 on: Feb 05, 2015, 06:07PM »

Including "coming soon"...

- Markus Leuchter: Tenor Sackbut (Van der Heide)
- Markus Leuchter: Bass Sackbut (Van der Heide)
- Kurt Scherzer: Quartposaune (Schmidt TP3-1/2A, TBP5W)
- Hawkes & Son: The Cabaret (H.N. White 19)
- Kanstul: KSL-750 (Wick 9BS)
- Yamaha: YSL-350C (Wick 6BS)
- Yamaha: YSL-548G (Wick 5ABL)
- Holton: TR183 (Wick 1AL)

That makes 8 total. In time, I'd love to have classical tenor and bass trombones, a slide trumpet (the historical kind), and an ophicleide.
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« Reply #110 on: Feb 05, 2015, 06:49PM »

4
- Williams 8 (shipment pending)
- Yamaha 651
- Conn Connstellation
- Lyon and Healy, some kind of sackbut small trombone thing
- Possible Schmelzer 4 in my future (?)
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« Reply #111 on: Feb 05, 2015, 06:57PM »

two -- many ;-)

If you look at my Profile I have most of them listed.

Maestrohound, if you are serious about an Ophicleide, look at Wessex Tubas. They have one at a very reasonable price.  Rather than spending a small fortune on a 150 year old one.
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« Reply #112 on: Feb 06, 2015, 10:46AM »

Getzen 4047IB Bousfield 2014
Conn 88h 1969
88h 1959
88h 1967
8h 1967

Hi Tim
It would be great if you could do a review of the Getzen, using the Conns as a reference point.
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« Reply #113 on: Feb 06, 2015, 11:28AM »

Lots of "vintage" out there! (Maybe just a bunch of old players)  :D

Me - Pretty basic:

Getzen 725 for 75% of all my playing instead of a straight .547 most of the time
Conn 6H (alto bone parts and jazz/dance band)
Friedman Holton TR 156 screw bell for blowing laser beams through the conductor to the back of the auditorium for those pieces requiring the cannon effect  Evil .

Would like a bass bone and a straight .547, but got no dinero  :cry:
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« Reply #114 on: Feb 07, 2015, 04:26PM »

don't remember if I did this already , but.....
a trumpet player friend of ours brught it up, turns out trumpet players are hoarders too.


jupiter soprano
maestro chinese alto
olds super
p bone
king 606
king 3b
king symphony red brass
bach 42B
King 6B Duo gravis
an old "oxford" that's wall hanger material
parts and pieces of a 605 and a conn
that's just the bones.....
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« Reply #115 on: Mar 05, 2015, 09:26AM »

Been away from the Forum for quite a while.   Was doing some research and found this interesting. 

1.  Conn 24H Silverplated 1942 (main gig horn)
2.  Conn 24H Silverplated 1932 (back-up horn, needed it recently when I caught a cup mute to the slide--self inflicted)
3.  Conn 88H Silverplated 1955 w/Bach Taper removable leadpipe (main all other legit playing, all-around bad-ass horn)
4.  Conn 2H Silverplated 1917 (historic and for nostalgia, plays well, but stays in case)
5.  Conn 4H Artist with LW Slide 1953
6.  Couesnon Valve Bone Section coupled with a 1950s Conn Coprion Bell Section
7.  Conn Shepard's Crook Cornet 1963
8.  King 2B Liberty 1953 (Sweet sounding lead horn)
9.  Conn Mellophonium 1967 (Just had to have it.  Big Stan Kenton Fan.  Fun to play!)

Use a Todd Clontz Component Mouthpiece for most of the Conns
A Curry 5M and 6M for the King
Bach 5G & 2G for the 88H

That is all and most definitely enough. Hi
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« Reply #116 on: Mar 05, 2015, 10:49AM »

I feel trombone-poor.  I only have 2.  Who knows what the future holds?   :D

King 3B Silver Sonic
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« Reply #117 on: Mar 05, 2015, 11:05AM »

My list has changed substantially since I listed mine:

1. Bach 50b3 - 1982
2. Conn 88h - 1968
3. Conn 8ht w/SL2525 slide - 2003
4. Conn 79h silver plate - 1968
5. Conn 10h - 1954
6. Conn 6h bell only - 1957
7. Schiller (jinbao) alto

I really consider the 8h and the 88h as a single horn. If it were a modular horn, it would be. Also consider the 10h and 6h as a single bone with an optional bell. This is after a big consolodation. I realized that I didn't need or even play all the trombones I had. So I focused on getting stuff that I wanted and would play in each size I thought I would use at least a couple times a year.

I also have a 1965 3b, but don't count it because it's for sale, and I just feel it in my bones that someone is going to buy this thing soon. http://tromboneforum.org/index.php/topic,83211.0.html
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« Reply #118 on: Mar 05, 2015, 11:25AM »

TOO MANY.

Kanstul 1570CR (my only f-attachment tenor now, beat the Shires and Edwards I owned for the number one slot)
1960s Selmer Largo
1955-ish Martin Committee
1967 Olds Recording
1939 King Liberty (not 2B)

I don't even play in public. I think I'm starting to be a hoarder.
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« Reply #119 on: Mar 05, 2015, 04:40PM »

Just 3 basses:

Conn/Minick 62h (main horn)
Getzen 1062FD
King Duo Gravis 6B

Love 'em all.

Forgot one, 1912 Olds TIS tenor
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« Reply #120 on: Mar 07, 2015, 08:12PM »

I feel like a sissy compared to some of you guys. I have had as many as 4 bones, but am currently at 3.

King 2103 (3b) that I got about a year ago. I love this horn for playing lead in our local big band. I got a Warburton 7m mouthpiece for it and it really sings.

And I have an Edwards with all the pieces to build 2 complete horns. I have a .547 slide, a .525 slide, an 8" bell, an 81/2" bell, a valve section, straight neck pipe, and 2 tuning slides. I usually play it as a .525 horn with the 8" bell and valve.

And I have a Willson ,2704 non-compensating euphonium.

One of these days I want to get a small tuba and a small bore horn with a valve. And maybe a 2b. But money is a limiting factor. If I had tons if it, I would probably own 10 trombones, 2 or 3 euphs, a tuba, a bass trumpet, and 5 mountain bikes.
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« Reply #121 on: Mar 08, 2015, 06:10AM »

Bach 42BO T-Bone
Getzen 1052FD Bass T-Bone (I play this almost exclusively these days)
Yamaha 321S Euphonium  (Play @ Tuba Christmas)
St. Petersburg 209N CC Tuba (Play in American Legion Band, some traditional/dixieland style for pay occasionally)

(Others I have recently sold, 1982 King 3B, 1965 Conn 18H w/Cuprion Bell, 2006 Yamaha 830 Xeno Bass
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« Reply #122 on: Mar 08, 2015, 03:08PM »

Weril Gagliardi II Alto
Weltklang Alto
Rath R1
Conn 74H
Conn 88HTO
Holton TR181

Other instruments
Besson Sovereign Euphonium
Cerveny Eb Tuba

All trombones get played regularly except the Weltklang and the 74H.  The Weltklang slide is simply aweful and I have access to a friends 78H which I use instead of the 74H. The Euphonium and Tuba only come out on rare occasions, tuba mainly in the theatre bands and the Euph for the odd Planets or Bydlo
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Cerveny Eb Tuba Bach 24AW
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« Reply #123 on: Mar 13, 2015, 06:30AM »

Ok, I'll play....
Olds Balanced action (1928)
Olds Special (1954)
Olds Ambassador (1954)
(I dont use these much but they are all nice for what they are)
1960 Conn Constellation with lots of repairs and a med heavy slide (I use this a lot, and it looks it ;-) )
Pan American frankenbone with a 500 bore slide (spare for the 48H)
Early 80's TR258 made to be convertable with a straight neckpipe, spare TR158 bell, and a 525 slide (actually two separate horns.)
A Bb/F/G/Eb modular  Franken-bass. Based on a Yamaha 612 bell converted to a screw bell and a very modified 72H slide I have been using since 1978....
This is my "main" bass In spite of its quirks it's a nice player. Has a single valve section - the original red brass soldered rim bell flare and a brass unsoldered rim 10.5" bell flare from a 50Bl bell. Parts exist for at least one complete horn, the time to build it does not right now...
YBL 613H bought as a spare, great slide, great valves, good deal.
Mack Brass Euphonium, cheap, but it paid for itself.
Mack Brass Tuba... the Chinese are catching up ;-)
Several large boxes of bundy trombone and trumpet parts, (Ugh) and a crushed Conn 20I baritone I scavenged for the valves... (yet another project....)


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« Reply #124 on: Mar 13, 2015, 09:07AM »

I own one - King 2280 Legend Soloist Euphonium.

Had to quit trombone due to right elbow injury.
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« Reply #125 on: Jan 13, 2018, 09:33AM »

Including "coming soon"...

- Kurt Scherzer: Quartposaune (Schmidt TP3-1/2A, TBP5W)


Hi Maestro.  Do you use your Scherzer as both tenor and bass, with the respective mouthpieces?  Does it work well in both roles?  (I have a Piering Bb/F from maybe around 1900.  After a couple of recommendations, I recently got a Schmidt TP 3¾, which I like, and I’m also trying to add a TBP5W, which would give me a similar setup.)
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« Reply #126 on: Jan 13, 2018, 10:38AM »

OK, acquired two more recently, so...

King 2B, 3B-F, 4B-F all from the 70s.
King 3B from the mid-50s.
Holton TR180
Olds Ambassador
Early HN White wall hanger converted into a floor lamp (ran the rod through the bell, so no damage to the horn)
Besson wall hanger, built in the 1860s according to a letter I have from Besson.


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« Reply #127 on: Jan 13, 2018, 01:31PM »

Things have changed since last I posted here.
Lt Bach 12G
Bach 12
Bach Lt16Mg
King 2B+ Silver Sonic
Mount Vernon 36
Bach 42 BO
Getzen Canadian Brass Straight Tenor (Silver Plated)
King 2B Valve trombone w/ 1953 Nickel Tempo Bell
Yamaha 321 Bass Trombone
Weril Alto Trombone
Pre - WWI King Euphonium
1928 Conn Eb Tuba
1958 Conn Bb Tuba
Selman Bass Trumpet
Elkart Eb Alto Flugel-horn
American Standard Eb Mellophone
Blue P-Bone
Still have my Flutes
and 6 different sized Conch Shells
one Shofar (Ram`s Horn)
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« Reply #128 on: Jan 13, 2018, 01:39PM »

and 6 different sized Conch Shells
one Shofar (Ram`s Horn)

Where do you get the conch shells?
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« Reply #129 on: Jan 14, 2018, 07:53AM »

I live in Florida now (they`re every where) but I got all of mine in Rochester & Buffalo, NY at garage sales
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« Reply #130 on: Jan 14, 2018, 05:23PM »

My roster has changed in the past year as well:

- 88h w/std and 525 slide
- 79h
- Kanstul 1662i
- 48h
=========below are horns to sell
- 70h w/ f and Eb slides
- 1936 24h
- 10h
- 38h bell
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« Reply #131 on: Jan 14, 2018, 07:47PM »

As of this past Tuesday, I'm now at 3.

Bach 36BO
Yamaha 356G
King 606

Eventually I'll want to get a bass to mess around with as well as a straight horn for jazz/salsa stuff.
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« Reply #132 on: Jan 15, 2018, 06:11AM »

I have a few. Looking to buy a Euph next...

Glassl Alto
Bach TB200 (my first trombone, still use it for the occasional parade!)
Rath R3F w/Hagmann valve
Edwards T-396A. My daily driver.
Conn 73H Bass trombone with Red brass bell.

I also have a silver plated Reynolds small bore. Needs to be fixed up so it can be played again!

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« Reply #133 on: Jan 15, 2018, 06:16AM »


Besson wall hanger, built in the 1860s according to a letter I have from Besson.


That wall hanger might be desirable by players of period instruments if it can be restored to a decent playing condition. Not worth very much because of the large quantity of later French trombones that have the same design, but still, 1860 is earlier than what a lot of people have.
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« Reply #134 on: Jan 15, 2018, 11:03AM »

Shires Bass
Shires Large Tenor
Olds Recording

These are the ones that are immediately available.

Getzen 1062
Jin Bao Alto w/ upgraded leadpipe.
Bundy student trombone.

These are the ones that are at parents' house.

King 6B
Olds Studio

These are the ones that are currently at a tech.

Even with just the three of them here, they take up a surprising amount of space in the apartment.
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« Reply #135 on: Jan 15, 2018, 11:17AM »

I currently have the following:

King SS 2B
Elkhart 88H
Holton TR 180
Holton Custom inline 169

Schiller C Tuba

On the way:
M&W Dependent bass trombone, red brass bell, .562 bore playing slide.
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« Reply #136 on: Jan 15, 2018, 11:39AM »

Long time lurker, first time poster here...
My current collection includes:
Shires NY Axial
Bach 42BO
Bach 42B corporation era
Yamaha 682
Yamaha 321 Euphonium
Conn Director
Jin Bao Alto
Akai EVI
and... a late 50's silver-plated 2B that belongs to a friend that I hope to talk him into selling!
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« Reply #137 on: Jan 15, 2018, 12:04PM »

Many....

JPRath Alto (236?)

King 2B brass
King 2B Silversonic

Bach LT8G, 90s era
Bach 9 (6vii bell section), Mt Vernon era
Bach LT16M, corp era (i.e. standard gooseneck)
Bach LT16M Sterling Plus, 90s? (open gooseneck)

Edwards tenor with both .547 and .525/547 slides, open neckpipe and valve
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« Reply #138 on: Jan 15, 2018, 12:25PM »

Kuhnl + Hoyer BvL 480/488" Basic

Kuhnl + Hoyer BvL 480/488" BZ

'90's King 3B

Fender Basses and Galien Kruger MB 150 etc..
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« Reply #139 on: Jan 15, 2018, 12:42PM »

7 horns in my dinky little apartment:
  • M&W custom bass
  • Olds P-24G
  • Conn 88HCL
  • Bach 42KLT
  • King 3BF SS
  • Olds Ambassador
  • Yamaha YEP-621 euph
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« Reply #140 on: Jan 15, 2018, 01:05PM »

Bach LT42T
Bach 42AG
Conn 18H Director
Getzen 3062AF
King 2102SS
King 2103PLG
Yamaha YSL-697Z Black Phoenix

Most of these are not in my dinky little apartment, they are at my parents (the storage warehouse).  I only have the 42AG and little Conn 18H (bar gig) horn.
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« Reply #141 on: Jan 15, 2018, 01:17PM »

I last posted here probably a year or two ago. My collection has expanded. List from newest to oldest:

2017 Schiller American Heritage trombone (nickel plated)
1980s Blessing Marching Trombone (same as Olds O21)
1978 King 5B trombone
1950s Italian stencil Bb/F french horn
1950s Belgian stencil Eb mellophonium
1938-1942 H.N.White Trombonium
1934 Elkhart Cavalier trombone
1922 Conn New Wonder euphonium
1912 Buescher Eb helicon (trade in progress)
Early 1900's Henri Gautier Virtuoso trombone (slide only, bell cut apart)
Early 1900's Rampone & Cazzani valve trombone
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« Reply #142 on: Jan 15, 2018, 02:04PM »

Not too many (not enough in fact - I need to borrow instruments all the time :(...)


My main instrument is an Egger tenor sackbut after Sebastian Hainlein of Nuremberg (1632).

I have an early 90s Bach LT42 with aftermarket Hagmann and a bronze slide crook.

I also have a gorgeous silver plated with gold trim Conn small bore from ca. 1913, which I really don't get to play often enough.

Newest member of the family is a Wessex Bb ophicleide after Gautrot.

Another instrument will be added in about 3 weeks - I will be building (with the help and guidance of a master instrument maker) my own slide trumpet, based on a 1442 trumpet by Marcian Guitbert of Limoges! Can't wait!
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« Reply #143 on: Jan 15, 2018, 04:18PM »

I no longer own any of the trombones I had when I last posted in this thread. Back then I had 3 trombones and 4 others. Now I have:

1963 Conn 72H with Yamaha 813 independent valve section
196x Conn 72H stock (bell section only)
Early '70s yellow King 3B (loopy engraving)
Selmer Largo (straight)

2008 Kanstul 975-2 compensating euphonium
1984 King 1130 flugabone
1969 Conn 16E mellophonium
1938 Conn 6D double horn
1968 Conn 8B trumpet
Selman 17001 C trumpet
Carol Brass CTR-2000H-YSS trumpet
Pre-WWI Couesnon flugelhorn
Bach CR310 cornet
Getzen 383 frumpet

6 coach horns

Yamaha SY77 FM synthesizer
Yamaha DX7 FM synthesizer
Yamaha Reface DX FM synthesizer
Dave Smith Mopho SE analog monosynth
Novation KS4 virtual analog polysynth
Novation X-Station 49 virtual analog polysynth
Korg Kross 61 synth workstation
Korg Monotron analog monosynth
Casio Casiotone MT-100 home synth

Squier Affinity P-Bass (needs work)
2 broken violins
Hulusi
Various hand percussion

I'm currently without an alto trombone or a tenor with a valve - looking to rectify that in the next few months, as well as upgrading my double horn.
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« Reply #144 on: Jan 15, 2018, 05:20PM »

... as well as upgrading my double horn.

You mean increase it by 2 (to an 8D)?
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« Reply #145 on: Jan 15, 2018, 05:45PM »

I've had TAS (trombone acquiring syndrome) for quite awhile. I've been trying to pair down the herd but its tough. To many great horns out there!
Conn
6H
24h
32H
40H
44H
48H
Holton
67
69
tr100
tr156
Martin Urbie
King
2B
3B
5B
Olds
Studio early
Studio-late 60's
Recording LA brass outers
Recording- Fullerton w/nickle outers
S-20 Bass
Reynolds
Professional model 70
Comtempera 30-M
Argenta
Others
Bach 36B
Yamaha 645
Amati Alto
Blessing valve bone
Buescher 400 staggerwing
Selmer 23
Besson 8-10
Non Bones
Reynolds Sousaphone
King 1240 tuba
King 606 Baritone
York Euphonium
Cuesnon Altohorn
Conn 16 E Mellophonium
Trumpets
Conn 6-B
Olds Mendez
Cornets
Holton 25
Holton Super collegate
Conn Director w/Coprion Bell
York Flugalhorn
I'm probably forgetting a few. I've already thinned the herd a bit and should probably thin it more. But all these horns play great which makes it tough!


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« Reply #146 on: Jan 15, 2018, 05:55PM »

I hope nobody asks DJ Kennedy to make a list Evil
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« Reply #147 on: Jan 16, 2018, 04:42AM »

Bones:
Bach 42T
50's Martin Committee
blue pbone

Other:
Bach TR300 trumpet
Pan American cornet
beater Conn bell front baritone (literally looks like it got ran over by a truck, but for $25 it makes a good practice horn)
old 2v (piston + rotary) g bugle
Vito clarinet
Squier jazz bass
cheap Casio keyboard

Wall hangers:
vintage Conn director trombone (needs major work and is practically unplayable, so it lives on my wall)
First Act trumpet (found in my middle school's band room closet demolished, wasn't work fixing for the school so BD gave it to me to put on my wall)

Horns I'm borrowing:
Yamaha 354 (school owned)
G baritone bugle (local drum corps)
G contra (^)
 

Used to have a Conn 50h that I used before I got my Bach, but ended up selling it to my cousin to upgrade from his jupiter student horn for high school band. I'd probably own a lot more horns with too many to count if I had the money to afford them. I'm looking to at least get a King 2/3b, new large bore tenor, bass trombone, nicer trumpet, euphonium, and tuba one day. I hope I'm not asking too much  :D
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« Reply #148 on: Jan 16, 2018, 04:48AM »

well heck, if we are including non-trombones, here's my list, in descending order of my ability to play them:
Bones:
Jin Bao 7B clone very modified as described here http://tromboneforum.org/index.php/topic,103379.0.html
King 8B/Bach 50 frankenbassone
bach 42G straight
bach 36 straight
various student bones in varying conditions

Other brass:
Holton Eb Monster 3v tuba 1917
Carl Fisher 4v baritone ~120yo
No-name cornet ~100yo
couple of student trumpets in varying conditions

I went through a didgeridoo "phase" 25 years or so ago:
Australian Eucalyptus Didgeridoo in Db
Big Heavy homemade aluminum Didg in B
couple of pvc didges in various keys

I am currently in the middle of a string "phase":
violin ~100yo for fiddling
viola ~80yo also for fiddling- tuned octave below normal violin
Cello of unknown age really fun to play
5/8 size Czech made upright Bass tuned in 5ths an octave below the cello
MK F0 style mandolin
home made cigar box mandolin
appalachian dulcimer
Gibson C-1 (classical) guitar
Japanese "lawsuit" hollow body electric guitar
peavy electric guitar
Fender acoustic guitar
banjo
2 accordions
yamaha electric piano

probably some others I've forgotten about plus a crate full of musical toys....

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« Reply #149 on: Jan 16, 2018, 05:10AM »

I hope nobody asks DJ Kennedy to make a list Evil

Well, if he'd make one, THAT would be interesting (apart from setting a new Guinness record).  ;-)
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« Reply #150 on: Jan 16, 2018, 06:29AM »

How many horns do I own?  Well, there is 8 of them.  However there a lack of agreement on the sufficiency.

My Wife:  "That's way too many!"

Me: "I need an alto and a contrabass, and ..."
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« Reply #151 on: Jan 16, 2018, 06:41AM »

hah. after moving to NYC where space is less than adequate, it became time to cash in several items.
traded in: '65 Olds Super, Vintage King 2B, King 2B Jiggs

Daily Driver is now a Rath R1. (nickel tuning, yellow brushed bell, yellow neck, nickel slide, focused leadpipe)

Symphonic is a Conn 88H from the 70s.  Let's be honest, it's just an "in case of" horn at this point.  Cleaned monthly.  Played monthly at home just to make sure its not rotting away.

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« Reply #152 on: Jan 16, 2018, 07:16AM »

How many horns do I own?  Well, there is 8 of them.  However there a lack of agreement on the sufficiency.

My Wife:  "That's way too many!"

Me: "I need an alto and a contrabass, and ..."

I'm right there with you, except I only have 3 and want a contra.

I caught wind that Wessex will have a new totally redesigned contra out around May...
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« Reply #153 on: Jan 16, 2018, 08:06AM »

Still the same 7! I've been good. Keeping them all in good working order is something that I always worry about, and less horns means less to worry about.

Currently thinking about whether to have an olsen valve stuck on my Bach 42T or not. I like it the way it is, I just know that eventually the original thayer is going to go.
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« Reply #154 on: Jan 16, 2018, 08:17AM »

You mean increase it by 2 (to an 8D)?

Maybe. :D I do like that large bore Kruspe sound and feel. Looking at all kinds of different things though.
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« Reply #155 on: Jan 16, 2018, 09:14AM »

You guys are making me feel inadequate. I only have 5 trombones:

Bach 36BO (main axe)
King 3B
King 3B/F
Conn 6H (currently off for a slide re-build)
Rath R 4 bell with R3 slide.

Willson 2704 Euph that I haven't played in a year and a half.

Crappy $40 craigslist trumpet
Old Special trumpet

I am just experimenting with the trumpet thing. It may be temporary if I can't figure out the chops.



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« Reply #156 on: Jan 16, 2018, 09:34AM »

Maybe. :D I do like that large bore Kruspe sound and feel. Looking at all kinds of different things though.
If you really like that big, "Hollywood" horn sound and feel, look around for a King Eroica to try out. It's a George McCracken design; pretty much "8D only more so".

If you're on a tight budget, take a look at the Briz horns from China. Last I heard, they were building Paxman's student and intermediate lines.
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« Reply #157 on: Feb 07, 2018, 04:17PM »

If you really like that big, "Hollywood" horn sound and feel, look around for a King Eroica to try out. It's a George McCracken design; pretty much "8D only more so".

If you're on a tight budget, take a look at the Briz horns from China. Last I heard, they were building Paxman's student and intermediate lines.

I've been looking into those Eroicas actually. They seem like real sleepers. I've heard lots of great things about the Briz horns - I'd almost certainly go that way if I was going new.
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« Reply #158 on: Feb 07, 2018, 06:13PM »

2 Bach 50s. One with a corporation silver plated bell, corporation slide with a bi-thread leadpipe receiver, and Thayers. The other is a 50B3 with a removable bell. I also have a Conn 6H with a Coprion 18H bell, and a Jupiter marching euphonium for some reason.
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« Reply #159 on: Feb 07, 2018, 07:57PM »

You guys are making me feel inadequate. I only have 5 trombones...

You're making me feel inadequate. I only have three. That includes my student/beater/parade horn.
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« Reply #160 on: Feb 07, 2018, 10:22PM »

I have about two dozen at any one time. Still there's only a few I use often. A shires bass for the orchestra, another shires for most practicing at home, a Conn 62HG for commercial work, a Yamaha single trigger bass for teaching, Shires MD+ for small tenor, Bach 42 for large tenor, Boosey E flat 3+1 bass for most tuba doubling, a Bach 36 just because. Alto bone, Yamaha euphonium, conn bass trumpet and the rest are there just to remind me I don't need another horn!
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« Reply #161 on: Feb 08, 2018, 09:29AM »

About 15.  Mostly high-end, and mostly listed here on the forum.  Yikes.
Plus a couple cornets, trumpet, saxophone, clarinet, flute, blah blah blah.
A couple of tubas...you get the idea.
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« Reply #162 on: Feb 08, 2018, 09:44AM »

If all goes well, two. One all-purpose "symphonic-type" horn and one all-purpose "jazz-type" horn. Since I do not make my living honking, why would I need any more than that? I don't. Nor do I want any more than that. If I should find one or the other I like better than what I have, I'll sell the one it replaces.

Soon, I will be doing to my mouthpiece collection what I have been and am doing to my trombone collection.

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« Reply #163 on: Feb 08, 2018, 04:34PM »

Two at the moment, and maybe three in the future.

Yamaha YBL-830 Bass
Yamaha YSL-882UII Tenorbass
Another Yamaha tenorbass, or any reputable tenorbass will do, if I can find another good deal on Yahoo Auction Japan.

I plan to donate (or sell) the two tenorbasses to my former school band when I permanently go back to my home country, since they heavily suffer from lack of good equipment. I may talk to the band director to retain some authority on the horn, though, in case of donation.
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« Reply #164 on: Feb 08, 2018, 04:47PM »

I no longer own any of the trombones I had when I last posted in this thread. Back then I had 3 trombones and 4 others. Now I have:

1963 Conn 72H with Yamaha 813 independent valve section
196x Conn 72H stock (bell section only)
Early '70s yellow King 3B (loopy engraving)
Selmer Largo (straight)

2008 Kanstul 975-2 compensating euphonium
1984 King 1130 flugabone
1969 Conn 16E mellophonium
1938 Conn 6D double horn
1968 Conn 8B trumpet
Selman 17001 C trumpet
Carol Brass CTR-2000H-YSS trumpet
Pre-WWI Couesnon flugelhorn
Bach CR310 cornet
Getzen 383 frumpet

6 coach horns

Yamaha SY77 FM synthesizer
Yamaha DX7 FM synthesizer
Yamaha Reface DX FM synthesizer
Dave Smith Mopho SE analog monosynth
Novation KS4 virtual analog polysynth
Novation X-Station 49 virtual analog polysynth
Korg Kross 61 synth workstation
Korg Monotron analog monosynth
Casio Casiotone MT-100 home synth

Squier Affinity P-Bass (needs work)
2 broken violins
Hulusi
Various hand percussion

I'm currently without an alto trombone or a tenor with a valve - looking to rectify that in the next few months, as well as upgrading my double horn.

Ha after I listed my trombone collection just saw your keyboard/synths, so I'll just list my stash:

Korg Kronos 73
Korg Z1
Roland Jupiter 80 (x2)
Roland V-Synth GT
Roland Aira TR-8
Dave Smith Prophet 6
Waldorf XT
Waldorf Q
Waldorf mQ Phoenix
Novation Bass Station 2
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« Reply #165 on: Feb 08, 2018, 05:14PM »

Ha after I listed my trombone collection just saw your keyboard/synths, so I'll just list my stash:

Korg Kronos 73
Korg Z1
Roland Jupiter 80 (x2)
Roland V-Synth GT
Roland Aira TR-8
Dave Smith Prophet 6
Waldorf XT
Waldorf Q
Waldorf mQ Phoenix
Novation Bass Station 2

Nice synths! Jealous of the Waldorfs. May I ask why you have 2 Jupiter 80s? One for the road and one for the studio?
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« Reply #166 on: Feb 08, 2018, 07:28PM »

Nice synths! Jealous of the Waldorfs. May I ask why you have 2 Jupiter 80s? One for the road and one for the studio?

That was actually the intended purpose, to have one in the studio and one for the road.  I came across an amazing deal for the second one I could not pass up given the phenomenal build quality and key action, plus it sounds great!
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« Reply #167 on: Feb 09, 2018, 12:42AM »

Currently, three horns:
- Shires Custom Bass: BII7YLW detachable bell | BYC | Axials | B62NLW | B1.5SS (Main axe)
- Edwards T350 Straight Tenor: 321CF | Dual radius yellow brass tuning slide | TBCN | T2 Alessi
- Yamaha YBL-321 Bass (sits in storage)

Past horns (in order from oldest to recent):
- Bach 42B
- Shires Pro Select PSAG47W
- Chinese Axial Bass
- Kanstul 1662i
- Schiller Elite Nickel Euphonium
- Meinl Weston 451S Euphonium
- Rath R400
- Mack Brass TB810-L Bass
- Shires bass (went through enough parts to probably build 3 horns)
- Edwards B502i
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« Reply #168 on: Feb 09, 2018, 02:46AM »

Trombones:
A standard Bb tenor
A Superbone
Tenor PBone
Alto PBone (Unlike the tenor, this one plays right!)

Other Brass:
Eupho
Tenor horn
Bb trumpet
pocket trumpet
cornet
two flugels
One cornetto in G

(would love to get serpent, ophicleide, keyed bugle, keyed trumpet, Renaissance and Baroque and Classical slide trumpets, contrabass, cimbasso and sackbut, but que sera sera ... )

- woodwind and strings and percussion? well, yes, one likes to think of oneself as a gentleman, a man of taste and refinement and an ability to aggravate the neighbours beyond reason, but that's no reason to do the same for my friends online, is it?  :D
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« Reply #169 on: Feb 09, 2018, 07:00AM »

1963 Holton 169
1970's Holton 159
Shires Single Valve Bass w Hagmann
Edwards B454e
Straight Edwards Bass w unmarked Holton 9" bell

...4 really - considering the edwards is convertible...
always looking for the next horn...
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« Reply #170 on: Feb 09, 2018, 07:25AM »

I don't have any horns.  Evil I only have one bass trombone, a Chinese stencil job that seems to play fine.

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« Reply #171 on: Feb 09, 2018, 08:48PM »

I currently only have one horn, my Getzen 1062FD which I have for about 2 years, that might change in the future though.  My student Besson will be donated to someone in like elementary or beginning band in junior high, I don't plan on using it in the future.  Now that my school's wind ensemble is doing more demanding pieces in the low register, I'm now using my bass trombone.  The winter concert was on a 88H I used to play the 3rd part which one never need a f attachment, and one where only C and B in the staff was used.  So I pretty much now have only one horn now.
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« Reply #172 on: Feb 09, 2018, 11:48PM »

I currently only have one horn, my Getzen 1062FD which I have for about 2 years, that might change in the future though.  My student Besson will be donated to someone in like elementary or beginning band in junior high, I don't plan on using it in the future.  Now that my school's wind ensemble is doing more demanding pieces in the low register, I'm now using my bass trombone.  The winter concert was on a 88H I used to play the 3rd part which one never need a f attachment, and one where only C and B in the staff was used.  So I pretty much now have only one horn now.

For a non-professional player one trombone can be plenty.  I know a guy who played in high level ensembles with only one horn: a Holton TR-185 single trigger bass.  Since he mostly played lower parts it was perfect.
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« Reply #173 on: Feb 10, 2018, 05:04AM »

I have only been able to part from three horns and they were sold because I needed money. The first one was a King 3b/F that was a gift from my grandfather. I needed money to buy my Abilene Conn 88h in the year 1979 when I prepared my self for music college. I miss that first 3b now for sentimental reasons since he is now long gone. I do have kept his Swedish made Ahlberg Olsson valve trombone from 1901. He also started as a musician before he switched career.

I also sold one 3b and one Conn 8H when I was unemployed and needed money a short period in 2003.

I don't know how many horns there are here, but it is three less than it could be and there is always room for one more.

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« Reply #174 on: Feb 12, 2018, 12:35AM »

3 trombones, 1.5 trumpets, 2 cornetti, 2 mute cornetti.

I started with one bone, as one does. Bach Stradivarius tenor.
In my late 20s, one of my best friends (who also played) asked me to hold onto his Bach trigger bass because he was moving to a tiny appartment in LA and couldn’t take it with him. He’s now a fairly successful actor on multiple major network shows, and recently signed on to a major motion picture. I don’t think he’ll be asking for it back anytime soon, but I’m prepared to return it at any time. Meanwhile, it earns me money and I give it T.L.C.
About three years ago, I joined a street band and needed a low-cost, reliable horn which could handle a wide range yet not break my heart if it were to receive “character marks” from being, well, on the street. I watched eBay and won a Bach Strad tenor for a whopping $87, including shipping. Yes, it plays extremely well and sounds fantastic. Say what you may, it’s a great reliable horn and ya can’t beat the price. If it gets dinged or stolen, I’m not concerned.
Cornetti? Yes, as in the plural of Renaissance cornetto. I play in a group called Lauda Musicam Atlanta on two resin Christopher Monk cornetto horns. This past season, I acquired two wooden “mute cornetto” horns from a teacher at Juliard. While I have not yet used them in a concert, they are gorgeous (sound and looks).

That’s my little story. For now. I enjoy all the photos and history posted here. I work and pay my bills with these simple instruments. Maybe someday I’ll buy a Shire or some other fancy horn, but I doubt it. I like simple. And I like my sound.
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