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« on: Feb 01, 2015, 03:16PM »

I have perused as many alto trombone threads as I could, but have not found answers to my questions.

I am looking to spend less than $500 on an alto trombone to learn how to play, but I want it to have a decent sound. From the other threads, I have looked at buying a Stauffer from The Horn Guys, but they are out of stock.

Do any of you have any experience with the John Packer JP136?
Although I would love to have enough money to go for the JP236, that is not an option right now.

Thanks for your help!
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« Reply #1 on: Feb 01, 2015, 03:19PM »

Check out the new alto from Wessex Tunas. I tried it recently and it was very nice blow.
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« Reply #2 on: Feb 01, 2015, 03:20PM »

Check out the new alto from Wessex Tunas. I tried it recently and it was very nice blow.

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« Reply #3 on: Feb 01, 2015, 05:05PM »

Check out the new alto from Wessex Tunas. I tried it recently and it was very nice blow.


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« Reply #4 on: Feb 01, 2015, 05:27PM »

I have a wonderful Weril Alto that is a copy of the old Conn Altos. I like it.
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« Reply #5 on: Feb 01, 2015, 06:21PM »

I have a wonderful Weril Alto that is a copy of the old Conn Altos. I like it.

Oh, I had that one, too.  I sold it because I wasn't playing a lot of alto and it was really slide-heavy.

I'm borrowing a Yamaha and an Edwards right now.
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« Reply #6 on: Feb 01, 2015, 06:44PM »

Are all alto in the key of E flat or just the ones I have looked at?

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« Reply #7 on: Feb 01, 2015, 06:50PM »

Most are in E flat. Olds used to make some in F, and a couple of German companies offer an F alto in their catalogs. F altos are rare, and there are not many people who play them.

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« Reply #8 on: Feb 01, 2015, 08:45PM »

The jp 136 is yhethe samr model as the one with the stauffer pipe minus the stauffer pipe.
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« Reply #9 on: Feb 01, 2015, 08:51PM »

How about the jinbao alto from the Horn Guys?
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« Reply #10 on: Feb 02, 2015, 12:23AM »

Hi. I have a rheinsound which plays OK. It comes with 3 leadpipes and sounds ok to me. Max.
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« Reply #11 on: Feb 02, 2015, 01:06AM »

If you're reasonably serious then I would wait, save a bit more cash, and get the JP/Rath 236 model...........
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« Reply #12 on: Feb 02, 2015, 02:34AM »

Just noticed the spell check correction to Wessex Tunas, something fishy about that but don't let it interfere with the message. Wessex have a brand new alto (they are now offering two models). Check it out!
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« Reply #13 on: Feb 02, 2015, 08:24AM »

What I like about the Weril is ....
1) It "Feels" like a straight tenor in your hands
2) It has an actual 7th position
3) it is a larger bore alto at .500 it doesnt feel tight like I`ve found some of the smaller altos to be (to me)
4) it is a little front heavy but not bad to where it hurts your wrist holding it up.

I picked mine up for $700. I had a Yamaha in Grad school (`80`s) and hated the horn. weird slide and the tone was not easy to focus for me. The Weril is a good viable option that tends to get pushed aside in these threads because it`s not a high end horn or one of the favored brands.
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« Reply #14 on: Feb 02, 2015, 09:01AM »

I would say save more money and buy a much better alto that one for $500.

I was lucky enough to have a teacher who told me to save more money for a better alto after hearing me paying his Yamaha (he was going to sell it to me at that point) and his Glassl.
After this he told me he wasn't going to sell the Yamaha to me because the difference in sound quality was just too much. Then I saved money and ended with a Glassl.

I am still thankful with my teacher for this great advice!!!!!
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« Reply #15 on: Feb 02, 2015, 09:12AM »

 Eeek! Eeek! Eeek!

I don't know the difference between glassls and Yamaha were at the time... but even now the Markus Leuchter horns (Glassl's apprentice afaik) are $3300. That's a LOT more than $500.  Splitting the fiference, I got a got a great Conn 36H used and had a tech make it perfect. Probably isn't quite as good as a Marcus Lechter/Glassl, but I also spent half as much on it. I suppose it depends on your long term goals.
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« Reply #16 on: Feb 02, 2015, 09:16AM »

I would say save more money and buy a much better alto that one for $500.

I think it's a very good idea to start with a used instrument, you might be able to buy a Bach 39, a Conn or some of the other medium class instruments. I got a very nice 15 year old B&S alto for 440,- Euro on ebay.

After playing this for a couple of years, you can always sell for almost the same price, and move on to one of the high end bones, Glassl, Pfretzschner, Voight, Lätsch , whatever.

The time invested on a good used instrument will be very valuable when deciding what you like on a high end instrument, and which to choose.
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« Reply #17 on: Feb 02, 2015, 10:28AM »

Hi Matt,

It is a matter of choice, reason why I said "save more money for something better" (thinking of what you can buy brand new for $500) and also shared my positive experience that's all. Used instruments is another possibility as Marc pointed out.

Jason is free to buy anything he wants I didn't tell him: THIS IS WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO or YOU HAVE TO BUY A GLASSL, LATZSCH, THEIN OR LEUCHTER AND NOTHING ELSE. I think you misunderstood my point, all I said was to save more money to get   something better, used Conn, Courtois, Yamaha or as Marc said a Bach 39 or a B&S could be something better and also it would last and help you longer, the only problem: for $500 might be pretty difficult to find one!!

Funny thing since you talked about differences in prices is: you probably spent about the same of what I paid for my Glassl (Brand new).
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« Reply #18 on: Feb 02, 2015, 10:34AM »

Save your money and buy something that will last you. You never just "learn alto"...at this point you're encoding information about where to adjust certain slide positions, etc. Buy a solid used horn. Stay away from Bach.


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« Reply #19 on: Feb 02, 2015, 01:18PM »

Warning, the B&S alto is extremly out of tune. The  bb  in first position is much too flat. The g´ is too high. You have to correct nearly every position extremly. 77th positions  Evil
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