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« Reply #20 on: Nov 25, 2015, 06:37AM »

What does the nickel gooseneck do to the feel and sound as compared to brass gooseneck?
I am a big fan of Martin Comittee trombones. I am going to talk to Mr. Lawler about a custom small bore trombone
in the near future. I love to support persons with unique vision. The removable flares creates a lot
of flexibility! Congratulations to Mr Lawler!

As far as the nickel gooseneck is concerned, it depends on the rest of the set up. But overall, I believe it tends to brighten the sound and speed up the response just a tad.

These are really nice trombones. The very best I've played in a long time.
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« Reply #21 on: Nov 25, 2015, 07:46AM »


These are really nice trombones. The very best I've played in a long time.

Better than the Inderbinens?
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« Reply #22 on: Nov 25, 2015, 07:58AM »

Better than the Inderbinens?

For me, yes. I loved my Inderbinen but it was very heavy and poorly balanced; very front heavy. The Inderbinen is very unique in every aspect, including sound. The sound is wonderful but not American. The Lawler has a very American sound and feel, and for me, that's what I like.
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« Reply #23 on: Dec 11, 2015, 09:39AM »

What is the bell-to-slide relationship like? 

I mean to ask: is the bell further out like a King/Conn, or further in like a Bach/Getzen?  How long is the slide (as far as you could tell)?

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« Reply #24 on: Dec 11, 2015, 10:10AM »

What is the bell-to-slide relationship like? 

I mean to ask: is the bell further out like a King/Conn, or further in like a Bach/Getzen?  How long is the slide (as far as you could tell)?

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The bell length is more like a King. The slide is as long as it needs to be. :D Seriously, everything is very well balanced. I hope to have mine the first week of the new year.
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« Reply #25 on: Dec 11, 2015, 07:43PM »

Sheriff,
I have a '47 pristine Committee.  I love it's sound.  I play mostly in the commercial setting and my Committee fits in well, but I grew up on Kings and my goto is a 3B anniversary Silversonic.  When I am tired I may downsize to a wonderful '53 Olds Studio!  I really would like to get one of Mr. Lawler's trombones due to my experience with some of his previous work.  What combination(s) might you suggest for me.  Thanks for you thoughts.
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« Reply #26 on: Dec 12, 2015, 07:58AM »

Sheriff,
I have a '47 pristine Committee.  I love it's sound.  I play mostly in the commercial setting and my Committee fits in well, but I grew up on Kings and my goto is a 3B anniversary Silversonic.  When I am tired I may downsize to a wonderful '53 Olds Studio!  I really would like to get one of Mr. Lawler's trombones due to my experience with some of his previous work.  What combination(s) might you suggest for me.  Thanks for you thoughts.
Kevin McAlley  aka salsabone


Hi Salsabone,

It would be difficult for me not to recommend the combination I chose. I can not imagine any good player not liking the set-up I chose, but of course, we are all different. It took me a day and a half of playing to arrive at my set-up. I've played and owned a lot of great small bores in my life and this new Lawler is right up there with the very best of the lot.

If you decide to order one you can ask him for my set-up. Which is: 85/15 .025 bell stem, nickel neck pipe, brass tuning slide inners with an 85/15 tuning slide bow. If you go for the two flare deal that he offers, I'd choose an 85/15 .022 @ 7 1/2" and a 70/30 .022 @ 7 3/4" both with soldered rim. My hand slide is all nickel. He is also sending me a tuning slide with a 70/30 bow for comparison.

I hope you get one. Roy is every bit as good as the best trombone designers/makers in modern history.
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« Reply #27 on: Jan 07, 2016, 07:24PM »

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Hey all.

The Lawler Trombone arrived today. Roy is a genius. It's better than I remembered. And remember, this is not the horn that I played during my visit, so that speaks to his build consistency.

More later. I start a 6 week run of HAIRSPRAY on the 18th so I'll be able to put it through its paces then.

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« Reply #28 on: Jan 07, 2016, 08:34PM »

Pics????   :) Eeek!
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« Reply #29 on: Jan 07, 2016, 08:52PM »

Pics????   :) Eeek!

I don't do pics. It looks just like the ones on his website.
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« Reply #30 on: Jan 07, 2016, 08:52PM »

I'll hopefully get a chance to try the horn soon. Scott lives pretty close to me.  
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« Reply #31 on: Jan 07, 2016, 08:58PM »

I'll hopefully get a chance to try the horn soon. Scott lives pretty close to me.  

Luke, you lean towards dark and somewhat veiled sounding horns. This is not that. You could achieve dark and veiled with a Lawler by choosing different materials than I did. But......We'll work out a time for you to swing by and give it a blow. I think this new Lawler will surprise you; in a good way.
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« Reply #32 on: Jan 08, 2016, 05:20AM »

I have to admit a certain curiosity about these horns. Does anyone here know if anyone in the NY/NJ area has one that they'd be willing to let me try out a bit?
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« Reply #33 on: Jan 08, 2016, 05:43AM »

I have to admit a certain curiosity about these horns. Does anyone here know if anyone in the NY/NJ area has one that they'd be willing to let me try out a bit?

Give Roy a call and ask him if he has sold one to anyone in the NYC/NJ area.
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« Reply #34 on: Jan 08, 2016, 06:29AM »

you want  pics -------
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« Reply #35 on: Jan 08, 2016, 07:31AM »

A buddy of mine, Ray Mason ordered one from Roy. He lives in the area. Brooklyn maybe? You can find him on Facebook. He doesn't have the horn yet but he probably will by next month.
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« Reply #36 on: Jan 08, 2016, 08:31AM »

I know Ray - we've played together before. Been awhile. I'll reach out to him.

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« Reply #37 on: Jan 08, 2016, 11:31AM »

I know Ray - we've played together before. Been awhile. I'll reach out to him.

Thanks!


Count me in, please. He's in Brooklyn? You live in New Jersey?? I'll drive.

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« Reply #38 on: Jan 08, 2016, 01:26PM »

Sam, I'll be in touch with you shortly - still chattin' with Ray about it.
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« Reply #39 on: Jan 08, 2016, 01:36PM »

Share your impressions!  I would be excited to cross-reference them.
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