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« on: Jan 06, 2016, 10:40PM »

gee  just about the time i was  gonna  post  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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 much is  /has been going on
militia  in BLM issues  --of course the native americans  scoff --we want our land back
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 concealed  carry  movement  --with  one  oranization  --providing legal /ethical and training  instructions
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 california  --seizure  w/o  what seems to be due  process 
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nra  --stating   many  many laws  statutes if enforced  might  possibly  do  ??????????????
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  open  carry   which  even  many  gun owners think  is un necessarily feeding anti gun sentiment
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  the   great  proliferation    of  ''black  rifles'' and  piistols of all sizes
 ammo  hoarding   and  shortages of certain sizes --[tapering off somewhat]
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   the root  causes  of  support  for  and against  and the  basic  philosophy    of  guns and  gun ownership  has evolved
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  much   is  fear  driven  --personal safety --family  -home safety
 equating  gun ownership   with   fundamental  freedoms  laid  down  by the founding fathers  in  the constitution
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  wars   and freedom
     it is easier to  understand the  loathing for guns  by  the  people of england --who suffered   and endured    two terrible   wars  which
along with  much of europe [with exception of switzerland]  --brought large populations into ariel bombing 
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  japan  was disarmed  --even the swords  given up  --
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  russia  grew stronger    and the atom bomb     mushroomed
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  target shooting  --darts --  pool -- golf --even   some  sports  in many  ways  resemble  ritualized   combat
   target shooting  is  akin  to  tinkering with  axial valves   and  mpc venturis
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  what is surprizing [or not ]  is  the  lack of familiarity   or  knowledge   of firearms    by  many    if not  most people
rural  folks  are largely   more   comfortable  with  camo outfits  generations   of family members in service   hunting     casual  firearm  outdoor activity 
   while  the  larger  more metropolitan  enthausiasts are confined to  ranges --indoor  /outdoor
    or  motorcycle   and ethnic  gang membership
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  so far  there has not been  legislation banning  the  number of  mouthpieces  on can have
    or the  proliferation of the f attachment  trombone    once thought to be  totally un necessary 
      the  pursuit of happiness  is  rampant in the trombone community
  and the  medium  of   music   brings    and  binds us  together 
   lettuce  therefore  rejoice   in our circumstances  '
    and  with respect  compassion  and  kindness 
      here have fellowship
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« Reply #1 on: Jan 07, 2016, 03:31PM »

a recent poll taken   at several  corrections  facilities  taken from residents 
 92 %   in favor of  universal  firearms  buyback   program   similar to australis
   4%  against
   2 %  abstaining
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« Reply #2 on: Jan 07, 2016, 03:46PM »

I kind of think the horse is long out of the barn.
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« Reply #3 on: Jan 07, 2016, 03:58PM »



a recent poll taken   at several  corrections  facilities  taken from residents 
 92 %   in favor of  universal  firearms  buyback   program   similar to australis
   4%  against
   2 %  abstaining
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Target Group in the poll...Duhhh!  Evil

You are the clever one DJ.  :)
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« Reply #4 on: Jan 07, 2016, 06:05PM »

its ez ---  i  live in a    ''prison town''
 a maximum  [big house] a minimum 
and  facility  for  unfit for trial  and/or criminally insane  [bug house]
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    the  sidearm in state on illinois  corrections  remains  a s&w  revolver  in 38 special
     considered obsolete in  many doj  circles  -however  a replacement  would  be cost ineffective
      there is  a  firing  range  and often with the  wind  the reports  can be  heard  all over town
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 military bases   might  present  similar  conditions 
and  several  large cities still  maintain stables   
for  mounted  officers  -in response  to horse  out of  barn comment
 please follow the strict subject  response  guidelines   [painted yellow on  floor surfaces ]
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 and confine  posts  to  admin approved  comments  --in light  of recent  executive orders
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  before  firearms  -spears  knives-swords axes   hatchets   pikenards  sabers   kiri   hashnamato rocks  stones snares
pritfalls    pitfalls  whips  atl-atl   bolo  coup sticks and  countless other  inventions  and innovations
 have  brought  meat   skulls bones  blood  skin  feather  scalps   for food  war or peace 
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 the nature  of  homo sapiens  has little changed 
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   hand held firearms   are being marketed  in    large  numbers 
assault  robbery   break ins  sexual assault   car jacking  mugging   mob violence   revolution
  capitulation to infidels  slaughter of the  innocent   and unspeakable  things  happen --------
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 firearms  enable  the  intent   
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  who let the  horses  out  ????????????????




Target Group in the poll...Duhhh!  Evil

You are the clever one DJ.  :)

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« Reply #5 on: Jan 07, 2016, 06:56PM »

a recent poll taken   at several  corrections  facilities  taken from residents 
 92 %   in favor of  universal  firearms  buyback   program   similar to australis
   4%  against
   2 %  abstaining
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It's a guaranteed means of fencing large(ish) numbers of stolen guns, so the criminal types loves them some buyback programs. That even makes the junk guns they've acquired and can't fence worth something.
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« Reply #6 on: Jan 07, 2016, 10:09PM »

dunno if there  much of this happenning  --very exciting  events  where they did it 
  esp w  the buyer /collectors hovering  around like  vults   screening  the goods  as the  decicated  and loyal  citenzery  brought in those 
 artillery  stocked  p 08s    uzi     commercial  thompsons   ---junk  colt single actions  and  1911s bars  mod 70s
   31  rimfire    old unertl  scoped  03s   --dangerous stuff for  sure  lemon squeezers  hi powers  and  just gobs of vietnan  bringback  ak47  and  m16s

 




It's a guaranteed means of fencing large(ish) numbers of stolen guns, so the criminal types loves them some buyback programs. That even makes the junk guns they've acquired and can't fence worth something.
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« Reply #7 on: Feb 15, 2016, 02:45PM »

There are Brits that have perfection and temperament for the occasion:

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/war-isis-sas-sniper-takes-daesh-commanders-head-off-while-giving-beheading-lessons-1543797

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The sniper took a jihadi's head off as he taught new recruits how to behead peopleReuters file photo

A British SAS sniper took an Islamic State (Isis) commander's head clean off as he taught jihadi recruits how to behead captives, according to reports. The marksman fired from over a kilometre away (1,000 metres) to land the shot.

The IS (Daesh) fighter was reported to be in the middle of a drill teaching new soldiers how to execute captives, according to the Daily Express. Some 20 new terror recruits were watching as the fatal bullet struck.

The soldier was operating in the northern Syria a fortnight ago and was using a .338 rifle with tumbling ammo that can cause a huge hole in the body on impact. The sniper had assistance from 12 fellow SAS soldiers, who managed to sneak into a jihadi compound before the shot was fired.

One military insider said: "One minute he was standing there and the next his head had exploded. The commander remained standing upright for a couple of seconds before collapsing and that's when panic set in. We later heard most of the recruits deserted. We got rid of 21 terrorists with one bullet."
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SAS!  Good!
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« Reply #8 on: Feb 18, 2016, 08:13AM »

its ez ---  i  live in a    ''prison town''
 a maximum  [big house] a minimum 
and  facility  for  unfit for trial  and/or criminally insane  [bug house]
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    the  sidearm in state on illinois  corrections  remains  a s&w  revolver  in 38 special
     considered obsolete in  many doj  circles  -however  a replacement  would  be cost ineffective
     

Not just any .38 special, when I was a corrections officer.
http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_775508_-1_757767_757751_757751_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y

It was the Model 15, or K38, a really well made target quality revolver.  We also bought the .22 version for familiarization for new folks, but probably really just so the armorer had cool stuff to play with.  You could get either .22 or .38 in the K frame. 
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« Reply #9 on: Feb 18, 2016, 02:37PM »

Not just any .38 special, when I was a corrections officer.

Those are on the scarce side these days ... no?
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« Reply #10 on: Feb 18, 2016, 02:53PM »

I’ve heard rumors Colt may start production of the Python again. They are quite pricey on the open market now… $2000+ easy.  Pant

Any scuttlebutt out there?
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« Reply #11 on: Mar 03, 2016, 03:30PM »

Smith & Wesson Surge:

http://www.investors.com/news/smith-wesson-breaks-out-crushes-q3-guides-higher/?ven=YahooCP&src=AURLLED&ven=yahoo

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Smith & Wesson (SWHC) soundly beat third-quarter expectations and raised its guidance again Thurs-day, and the gun maker plans to boost production of “key products” this quarter as fears of future gun regulations lift demand.

Adjusted earnings per share nearly tripled to 59 cents a share, 20 cents higher than consensus views. Sales surged 61.5% to $210.8 million, breezing past forecasts for $174.93 million.

A1Guns030416Smith & Wesson now expects full-year EPS of $1.68-$1.70, well above analysts’ out-look of $1.42, and above its upwardly revised guidance of $1.36-$1.41 given in January.

Shares surged 7% after-hours in the stock market today, breaking out of a cup base that had begun to form a handle and which had a 26.64 buy point. Shares of smaller rival Sturm Ruger (RGR) climbed 1.8% after hours.

“The combined strength of our firearms and accessories businesses delivered an exceptional perfor-mance, driven by healthy consumer demand across our growing portfolio of firearm and outdoor life-style offerings,” Smith & Wesson CEO James Debney said in a statement.

“Despite the fact that we entered our fourth quarter with lower inventories,” he added, “we are focused on increasing the production rates of our key products during the fourth quarter and we are therefore increasing our guidance for the full fiscal year.”

The results follow a series of mass shootings in the U.S., most notably in San Bernardino, Calif., during the quarter, that have kept the debate on gun control in the headlines.

The latest calls for tighter gun restrictions have spurred more gun sales, as buyers worry that pressure for new gun laws will restrict what can be legally purchased.

Similar surges were seen after the Sandy Hook school shooting in December 2012 and the Aurora, Co-lo., movie theater shooting in July 2012.

Background checks — which hit a record on Black Friday and are often used as a rough indicator of gun demand — have been on an uptrend for the past seven years, according to FBI data.

Meanwhile, Smith & Wesson has grown through new products, done more to draw women customers, and expanded into markets for hunting and, potentially, the military.

The Pentagon has been seeking a replacement for the Beretta M9 9-millimeter pistol, used by the Army for 30-plus years, and Smith & Wesson is seen as a top contender.
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« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2016, 06:04PM »

OK.  What in heck is going on in Houston?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/gunman-among-least-2-dead-houston-shooting-174151242.html?ref=gs

You just drive into a car repair shop and get killed?  There were 27 bullet damages on a police car?  Shots fired at a police helicopter? Amazed Amazed
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« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2016, 06:49PM »

OK.  What in heck is going on in Houston?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/gunman-among-least-2-dead-houston-shooting-174151242.html?ref=gs

You just drive into a car repair shop and get killed?  There were 27 bullet damages on a police car?  Shots fired at a police helicopter? Amazed Amazed

Clearly.
 
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« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2016, 07:35PM »

I didn't see much crime in Alaska. The TV shows about cops in Alaska are not a good representation of what Alaska is really like. You would have to be very foolish to pull a gun and start shooting in that state.

This is the state where you can bring your license into a gun shop, get your DOB checked, buy a 10mm Glock, buy ammo, load it it, stick it in your pants, and THEN walk out of the store. All the while the guy behind the counter is smiling at you with one finger on the grip of his pistol.

It's like Mutually Assured Destructon, except it's not really mutual. And it's not as destructive.

What's the issue with weapons? States where not everybody has them? I can see that. Personally, I think the government should really start pushing the civilian marksmanship program again, where you can get an old 1901 or M1 for $150 and learn how to shoot properly.
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« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2016, 07:52PM »

BvB:  Did you catch the fact that one of the hospitalized people was a guy who was trying to get his gun out to stop the nut case?
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« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2016, 08:33PM »

BvB:  Did you catch the fact that one of the hospitalized people was a guy who was trying to get his gun out to stop the nut case?

If only he'd gotten out his phone and dialed 911 ...
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« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2016, 10:34PM »

This would be far less likely to happen in Arizona where almost anyone could have been armed, prepared and able to respond with deadly force.  Arizonans, unlike Californians and others are not expected to allow themselves to become victims.
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« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2016, 10:44PM »

"What's the issue with weapons? States where not everybody has them? I can see that. Personally, I think the government should really start pushing the civilian marksmanship program again, where you can get an old 1901 or M1 for $150 and learn how to shoot properly."

Maybe you can get Don on side with this.
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« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2016, 05:54AM »

This would be far less likely to happen in Arizona where almost anyone could have been armed, prepared and able to respond with deadly force.  Arizonans, unlike Californians and others are not expected to allow themselves to become victims.

Uh, that was Texas... not California. You know, the state where gun nut jobs protest anti-gun people by parking in the parking lot with a crap ton of fairly useless but scary looking armaments. I think they have enough guns.  ;-)

Too bad that "allow themselves to become a victim shtick" is just bs propaganda from the gun manufactures to get you to buy more guns.
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