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« Reply #20 on: Jun 18, 2016, 05:06PM »

Not really burned but surprised... buying a Bb Euphonium on eBay and getting an Eb tuba.

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« Reply #21 on: Jun 18, 2016, 05:54PM »

Not really burned but surprised... buying a Bb Euphonium on eBay and getting an Eb tuba.

I got a similar Ebay surprise last year- I bought a "Baritone Horn" and got the worst little Eb Alto horn I've ever seen or played. It had enough cracks and leaky joints that it would've made a great irrigation device for a garden. At least my wallet didn't take a massive hit.

I bought one of those oval-shaped Baritone horns yesterday, I'm hoping that I got a good deal on a functional instrument... but considering it was made in the USSR in 1961, I don't know what to expect.
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« Reply #22 on: Jun 18, 2016, 06:28PM »

considering it was made in the USSR in 1961, I don't know what to expect.

Solidarity?
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« Reply #23 on: Jun 19, 2016, 08:48AM »

Solidarity?

That was in Poland, dude...

or do they spell it "Polande" in England? Evil
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« Reply #24 on: Jun 19, 2016, 09:59AM »

I bought one of those oval-shaped Baritone horns yesterday, I'm hoping that I got a good deal on a functional instrument... but considering it was made in the USSR in 1961, I don't know what to expect.

Give us a report on that after you get it.  I'm curious.
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« Reply #25 on: Jun 19, 2016, 01:27PM »

I bought one of those oval-shaped Baritone horns yesterday, I'm hoping that I got a good deal on a functional instrument... but considering it was made in the USSR in 1961, I don't know what to expect.

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« Reply #26 on: Jun 19, 2016, 05:50PM »

Two?  I've been out of the loop...

Hi Bill,  The Perfacktone off Ebay for $10 plus shipping and a no-name from Goodwill in London Ont (picked up by a friend who resides there).  No ETA on that one yet, oh $40.00 for that one.

The Perfacktone I should have Monday or Tuesday.  Ron Partch may be getting more work.

If they don't suit me I can always donate them to Kim's Junior school music classes.
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« Reply #27 on: Jun 20, 2016, 10:13AM »

That was in Poland, dude...

or do they spell it "Polande" in England? Evil

I'm the wrong person to ask because I'm not English.

Were you trying to pun Poland with Hollande (Francois)?  Don't know
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« Reply #28 on: Jun 20, 2016, 01:17PM »

I've bought several instruments on E-bay and have had great luck, only one of them was not quite what it was represented to be, and the seller made good.  I bought a Sousaphone from on E-bay that supposedly had been checked out by a pro-instrument repair tech, and was supposed to be 100 % playable, and included the neck and bits.  When I got the horn the part of the neck that goes into the leadpipe had been cut off with a tubing cutter and badly caved in where is was cut.  Both Tuning bits had also been cut off with a tubing cutter as well.  I contacted the seller told him the neck and bits were unusable, and I wouldn't give him bad feedback if he refunded the amount required to buy a new neck and tuning bits.  He gladly refunded the amount required to buy the new neck and bits, and I didn't give him any feedback positive or negative for that sale.

There was one time in my music career that our band got burned doing a gig for a local club a couple decades ago.  We were supposed to play happy hour for a set fee, and then they had a popular nationally known artist coming in later.  Since he didn't get the turnout for happy hour he thought he would he decided that there was no set fee negotiated and we were playing for tips (but no tip jar was every put out, and no one let the crowd know we were playing for tips) so we actually got nothing for playing for 2 hours of happy hour with a full 18 piece big band.  We learned from that experience to always get it it writing. 

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« Reply #29 on: Jun 24, 2016, 07:29AM »

Not burned exactly but disappointed.  The Perfacktone horn I bought off Ebay, $10 first bid, I should have just sent the seller the $10 but some of us gamble don't we. Shipping was 4x the cost.  Anyway it's a horn I will most likely never play, awkward to hold as it's slide heavy and the bell is very close to the slide not giving much finger room.  The slide itself is not great although it would improve with more cleaning.  What could I expect for $10?
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« Reply #30 on: Jun 24, 2016, 07:38AM »

Hm, got any pics?
Not burned exactly but disappointed.  The Perfacktone horn I bought off Ebay, $10 first bid, I should have just sent the seller the $10 but some of us gamble don't we. Shipping was 4x the cost.  Anyway it's a horn I will most likely never play, awkward to hold as it's slide heavy and the bell is very close to the slide not giving much finger room.  The slide itself is not great although it would improve with more cleaning.  What could I expect for $10?
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« Reply #31 on: Sep 20, 2016, 12:44PM »

I got a similar Ebay surprise last year- I bought a "Baritone Horn" and got the worst little Eb Alto horn I've ever seen or played. It had enough cracks and leaky joints that it would've made a great irrigation device for a garden. At least my wallet didn't take a massive hit.

I bought one of those oval-shaped Baritone horns yesterday, I'm hoping that I got a good deal on a functional instrument... but considering it was made in the USSR in 1961, I don't know what to expect.

I can relate to this.  Sometimes the sellers are not knowledgeable about the horn they are selling so its important to look at the pictures closely and ask questions.  Always find out if there is a return option.  I'm in the market for a 3B right now and am being careful about what I am going to buy.  Best wishes!
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« Reply #32 on: May 16, 2017, 05:44AM »

Not yet but I've recently bought two bones sight unseen, should have one early next week.  I'll let you know.

Just a follow up to this.  One horn was a Blessing, came from Goodwill for cheap,  I had the slide re-aligned and donated it to a youth band.  I did not feel ripped off at all.

The other was an Olds TIS, which also need some slide attention, but is a keeper.  Dual bore with balance weight attached to the crook and the funky little bear playing a trombone engraved on the bell.

I did get one off Ebay for a $10 bid plus a lot more shipping which is pretty much unplayable.  It's a Czech horn, very small bore.  It needs slide work that I'm not willing to invest.  I didn't really want it but threw a bid on to get it started.  Learned a lesson.  It's a Perfactone if any one is interested.  Not burned just bad judgement on my part.
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« Reply #33 on: May 16, 2017, 06:07AM »

Well, I did. Out of stupidity and not making my homework...don't do like me.

I supposedly bought a King 3BF anniversary edition. After googlin all around I found that the trombone in question had only two thing in common with the desired 3BF:

1. It had an F trigger Clever
2. It had an engraving with a font similar to King's.

Other than that, it was large bore, large shank, big bell (8.5 if not mistaken) and a rather heavy (as a feel not as much as a weight per see) hankslide. Overall, it was probably more like a copy of Bach 42 thank anything King like. It is not too bad, but it wasn't worth the money I paid.

I bought it on aliexrpess.com. Another big mistake.
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« Reply #34 on: May 16, 2017, 07:22AM »

If someone buys something here on the forum and it's misrepresented, or if someone doesn't pay, I think it's absolutely imperative to let others know what is going on.  I always strive to accurately depict what's going on with the horns I sell.  Sometimes surprises do happen.  I sold a stack of music to a person for something like $50.  I got paid no problem.  The music never arrived.  So I issued a full refund and took up the issue with the delivery service.  The music still never came...so what can be done?  I lost out on the money, but it certainly wasn't the other persons' fault.  Sometimes things just happen.

I also got burned one time on the forum and I posted about it.  I purchased a Courtois AC440 with Hagmann.  What I got was a Courtois bell with a Bach 50 handslide.  Not at all what I wanted.  The guy turned up in Canada, wouldn't communicate afterward, and disappeared from the forum.  Good riddance.

Overall, I still prefer to deal through the forum.  Most folks are interested in doing the right thing.
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