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« on: Sep 26, 2016, 06:44PM »

Hello all. Browsing some old newspaper clippings I came across this entry -

The Morning Tulsa daily world. (Tulsa, Okla.), 17 Oct. 1920. Chronicling America: Historic American Newspapers. Lib. of Congress. <http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn85042345/1920-10-17/ed-1/seq-35/>

Under "Await Jazz Trombone," the author states -

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Europe will not have real jazz, however, until she introduces saxaphone, unknown here, and the trombone player with the palsied hand

Does anyone have any interpretive guesses as to what what a "palsied hand" might be in reference to? I have some thoughts, but would like to hear what others gather from this excerpt.
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« Reply #1 on: Sep 26, 2016, 07:14PM »

Ha! Good synonym for chainsaw slide vibrato  :D
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« Reply #2 on: Sep 27, 2016, 07:44AM »

Perhaps a trombonist known for using vibrato frequently? Or perhaps a certain style of vibrato that was popular in the 20's, e.g., fast and frequent?

I'm rather ignorant of early 20th century jazz. Perhaps the author is referring to Jack Teagarden? Trummy Young? Maybe Dicky Wells? I believe he toured Europe--Paris?--in the teens or 20's. 
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« Reply #3 on: Sep 28, 2016, 06:04AM »

Seems like the "involuntary tremors" part of the definition would suggest slide vibrato. 

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« Reply #4 on: Sep 29, 2017, 09:37AM »

I believe Leopold (father of Wolfgang Amadeus) Mozart wrote of palsy in relation incessant vibrato by string players.  He thought, correctly in my opinion, it was bad thing.
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« Reply #5 on: Sep 29, 2017, 10:44AM »

Yeah, must be "vibrato".

So that guy is commenting from Europe? And there are no (invented in Europe) saxophones?

I wonder if he had ever heard Arthur Pryor. That's a more severe vibrato than anything you'll hear on a "jazz" recording of that era.


I'm always skeptical of any use of the word "jazz" that early because they seemed to apply it almost any dance music that was odd in some way. They might talk about having heard some "jazz" but it's hard to know what they encountered.   

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« Reply #6 on: Sep 30, 2017, 05:04AM »

Ha! Good synonym for chainsaw slide vibrato  :D
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« Reply #7 on: Oct 09, 2017, 01:38PM »

Si Zentner
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« Reply #8 on: Oct 11, 2017, 09:03AM »

Si Zentner would've been a toddler at the time the article was written...
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