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« Reply #20 on: Dec 26, 2016, 08:30AM »

I think Sibelius' 7th is rarely performed.  Possibly because it's the one Sibelius symphony you have to pay to rent.


Superb solo passage.  I've played this as few times and would be to do it again!!
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« Reply #21 on: Mar 06, 2017, 08:43AM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7oGV1RqRH4
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« Reply #22 on: Mar 06, 2017, 08:55AM »

Very interesting duet between the trombone and the tenor voice.  I've never heard that one before.  Thanks, Trombonaut.
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« Reply #23 on: Mar 06, 2017, 12:27PM »

Here you can also see this duet:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3tjuayrR5s
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« Reply #24 on: Mar 06, 2017, 01:18PM »


I've never heard that before either.  Apparently that is from Mozart's first "opera" of a sort, composed at age 11.

Certainly an unusual tactic.

Or was it?  Were trombone/vocal duets a thing at the time? Or was it just some crazy 11-year-old thing to do?
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« Reply #25 on: Mar 06, 2017, 02:00PM »

We know another duet he wrote at the end of his life: the Tuba Mirum of his Requiem.
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« Reply #26 on: Mar 06, 2017, 05:32PM »

One every 22 years.  Not quite a trend.
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« Reply #27 on: Mar 07, 2017, 06:10AM »

There's also pretty challenging trombone solo in a ballet by Andrey Petrov (better known as a soviet film score composer) called Creation:
https://youtu.be/Zbwol3zc4D8?t=924
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« Reply #28 on: Mar 07, 2017, 07:43AM »

Actually for some reason I haven't noticed 15th symphony by Shostakovich in this list (or do you count it as an often played piece?). It has a few rather long trombone solos in the slow movement.
https://youtu.be/6zKJFogiAhc?t=929
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« Reply #29 on: Mar 08, 2017, 11:40PM »

Many thanks for the additional useful and interesting suggestions. Here is an updated list (alphabetically). Please feel free adding.

Adams, City Noir https://youtu.be/l6137doeimU

Malcolm Arnold's Tam O'Shanter Overture https://youtu.be/ceWSd1-udgM

H. Berlioz, Symphonie Funubre Et Triomphale, 2nd movement https://youtu.be/BEcSQ8BTlPQ?t=17m34s

Goliov "Azul" https://youtu.be/RgCA8zTeFOQ

H.K. Gruber - Frankenstein https://youtu.be/kW_jD2RK5lA?t=24m04s

P. Hindemith Nobilissima Visione (the Ballet NOT the suite) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-pLs_RwP0c

Leos Janacek Sinfonietta https://youtu.be/NCXRqgXiARA?t=10m45s

W.A. Mozart Aria "Jener Donnerworte Kraft" in "Die Schuldigkeit des Ersten Gebotes" KV 35 https://youtu.be/ju7B6tq6n4w

Andrey Petrov The Creation of the World,Suite No.1 https://youtu.be/Zbwol3zc4D8?t=924

Respighi, Roman Festivals, last movement (not very lesser-known) https://youtu.be/bIMAicXgZP4

Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov - Russian Easter Festival Overture Opus 36 https://youtu.be/j4CX4qxnA98

D. Shostakovich, The Bolt (bass trombone) https://youtu.be/IcDL8wauKc0

D. Shostakovich - 4th Symphony https://youtu.be/9MjPsYs6b8k

D. Shostakovich - 12th Symphony https://youtu.be/K_IGkwov3EM

D. Shostakovich - 15th Symphony https://youtu.be/N0iZGMXpquQ?t=15m8s

J. Sibelius 7. Symphony https://youtu.be/ZOfUYtSXaXI

R. Strauss "Die Frau ohne Schatten" Symphonic Fanatsy https://youtu.be/CnePcliodSo?t=9m12s

I. Stravinsky, Agon (Ballet) https://youtu.be/CoW3-YcjHsY

Abroise Thomas' Hamlet https://youtu.be/P70KBHeDw7U

Verdi Overture Nabucco https://youtu.be/hIyZNJKu1ik

Kurt Weill - 2nd Symphony https://youtu.be/jLKcIHZYPew
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« Reply #30 on: Mar 09, 2017, 03:26AM »

Why include Sibelius 7 and not Mahler 3?

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« Reply #31 on: Mar 09, 2017, 05:12PM »

Why include Sibelius 7 and not Mahler 3?

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I guess the question behind your question is what constitutes "rare"? "Rarity" is necessarily a somewhat subjective judgement since I am not aware of an empirical study that shows the frequencies which which works are performed or excepts are required in an audition.

Doug Yeo lists trombone excerpts in what he writes is the order of frequency asked, see https://www.yeodoug.com/resources/text/audrep.html. It list Mahler 3rd in 13. position but does not even mention Sibelius 7. This may be an answer to your question.
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« Reply #32 on: Mar 10, 2017, 01:25AM »


 

W.A. Mozart Aria "Jener Donnerworte Kraft" in "Die Schuldigkeit des Ersten Gebotes" KV 35 https://youtu.be/ju7B6tq6n4w



This link doesn't seem to be working, at least in Finland.
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« Reply #33 on: Mar 10, 2017, 06:09AM »

I guess the question behind your question is what constitutes "rare"? "Rarity" is necessarily a somewhat subjective judgement since I am not aware of an empirical study that shows the frequencies which which works are performed or excepts are required in an audition.

Doug Yeo lists trombone excerpts in what he writes is the order of frequency asked, see https://www.yeodoug.com/resources/text/audrep.html. It list Mahler 3rd in 13. position but does not even mention Sibelius 7. This may be an answer to your question.

That's the frequency asked for at auditions, not concert performances.  I've heard (and seen) Sibelius 7 programmed far more often than Mahler 3. :-)

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« Reply #34 on: Mar 10, 2017, 07:05AM »

Hindemith Concert Music for Strings and Brass.  At 12:50 and 16:20 of the following:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3f_-rJQ_Os
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« Reply #35 on: Mar 10, 2017, 11:14AM »

This link doesn't seem to be working, at least in Finland.

Very strange. Here is the description:

Published on Feb 21, 2015

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Aria'jener donnerworte kraft' ˇ Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart ˇ Jörgen van Rijen ˇ Combattimento Consort ˇ Marcel Beekman

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What do you see when you click on this link in Finland?
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« Reply #36 on: Mar 10, 2017, 11:27AM »

That's the frequency asked for at auditions, not concert performances.  I've heard (and seen) Sibelius 7 programmed far more often than Mahler 3. :-)

Ronnie

I think the list adds value only if it mostly contains "rare" works beyond what is known from common books of trombone excerpts. Of course, as mentioned before "rare" is a vague and subjective criterion. I wouldn't want to include Mahler 3 into the list (although I like it very much) because in my mind it is one of the most well-known trombone solos but if you want to create a comprehensive list of trombone solos, please do. The internet and trombone forum is perfect for it as I believe many people will contribute. I think an extremely comprehensive list would be very valuable as well. I wouldn't do it under the header "rare" though.
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« Reply #37 on: Mar 10, 2017, 11:28AM »

Hindemith Concert Music for Strings and Brass.  At 12:50 and 16:20 of the following:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3f_-rJQ_Os

Very good. Should be included into the next version of the list.
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« Reply #38 on: Mar 10, 2017, 12:18PM »

Creston- Toccata

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYs3aqSHSRg&list=PLSfj6fWp0erx86jPmDsfwC3Wg9kNe0WlD

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« Reply #39 on: Mar 10, 2017, 12:58PM »

What do you see when you click on this link in Finland?
Well, it just says:
This video is not avaliable. Sorry about that.  Frown
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