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« on: Jan 06, 2017, 10:43AM »

Can anybody tell me how (what position, posibly lip trill) is used for the lick starting at 0.25 of ths below transcription?

https://youtu.be/dhqv9dkllYI?t=25s
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« Reply #1 on: Jan 06, 2017, 02:38PM »

Tuning adjusted, 4th to 3rd, to 4 etc. I would urge you print out a note position chart (grid), It'll really help you to get a lot more out of the slide. If you PM me I can let you have a copy of the one I made.
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« Reply #2 on: Jan 06, 2017, 03:41PM »

Can anybody tell me how (what position, posibly lip trill) is used for the lick starting at 0.25 of ths below transcription?

https://youtu.be/dhqv9dkllYI?t=25s

Most likely 4th.  He likes those outer positions.
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« Reply #3 on: Jan 06, 2017, 06:33PM »

I once stood about 2 feet from him and watched him do stuff like that, and a great amount of it was just .... chops.  He did lip flexibilities effortlessly.
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« Reply #4 on: Jan 07, 2017, 02:14AM »

Most likely 4th.  He likes those outer positions.

You mean, the "Dark Slide"... Eb! C! Gb!
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« Reply #5 on: Jan 07, 2017, 04:11AM »

I don't know if he what he does it, but it is really easy that way Pre59 suggested. Good tip. Thanks.
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« Reply #6 on: Jan 07, 2017, 04:47AM »

Man is he really playing!
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« Reply #7 on: Jan 07, 2017, 05:30AM »

It always amazes me that guys don't know what that is. It's not a trill. I can it a "jazz turn" and it's as basic as a smear, a scoop, a rip, a fall, etc.

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« Reply #8 on: Jan 07, 2017, 05:34AM »

I forgot some of the english terms, I learnt in Manchester   Yeah, RIGHT.. Trill was the first thing it came to my mind :/ I guess that a turn is the closest. It would never call that a fall.

Maybe someone can put a list on trombone jazz articulations, embelishments and how are they supposed to be performed?
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« Reply #9 on: Jan 07, 2017, 08:22AM »

There's a recent post that included some printed examples, maybe about Frank Rosolino. They seemed to be triplet based..
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« Reply #10 on: Jan 07, 2017, 08:27AM »

I don't know if he what he does it, but it is really easy that way Pre59 suggested. Good tip. Thanks.

Try taking that exact phrase and playing it up and down the slide in as many keys as possible. Check the actual notes against your position chart to make sure that you understand what you've learnt.
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« Reply #11 on: Jan 07, 2017, 09:01AM »

Here is a free PDF download that explains a lot of jazz articulations:

"Interpretation Of Jazz Band Literature" - by Sergeant Major John Brye

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