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« Reply #20 on: Jan 11, 2017, 12:22PM »

I feel the same, Emisaumell. When I get my 6H out, I don't feel encouraged to play classical literature. And when I have my 42B out, I tend to shy away from jazz. I like to use the right tool for the job.

Not saying other people can use what they want- but that's definitely what I get from my horns.
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« Reply #21 on: Jan 11, 2017, 01:50PM »

I found his jazz really unconvincing.  His technique and range were awesome of course, as you'd expect, but for me it didn't translate out of the classical world. 
Jazz is a matter of taste.  Some people you will like, others not so much.  I'm not a huge fan of a lot of the jazz out there, but Alain has played some stuff I really like.

Would you say the lack of being inspired by his jazz was a result of his instrument or his style?
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« Reply #22 on: Jan 11, 2017, 03:39PM »

I also have a tendency to switch up equipment.  If the 3rd trombone part doesn't go below
I will use the 88H in Wind Ensemble and use my bass trombone full time in jazz.  I also believe in "Get the right tool for the job" saying. 
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« Reply #23 on: Jan 11, 2017, 03:52PM »

I have 7 trombones and will use the right one for any given job, to the extent of carrying up to two with me.  However, if I had only the one, I would not let that situation limit what I played.  Within reason.  For example, if my only trombone was my bass, I'd probably pass on "Getting Sentimental Over You" or "Bolero".  But if my only trombone was my Blessing B88, I'd not hesitate to play anything in it's range (which is pretty darn good).
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« Reply #24 on: Jan 11, 2017, 04:09PM »

I play whatever is put in front of me with whatever I have at hand.

I was at Big Band rehearsal with my King 7B and our lead couldn't make it.  So I put a Wick 4BL in the King and played lead.  Yeah, I was bushed at the end of rehearsal and I don't know how I managed to hit some of those high C's ;-)
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« Reply #25 on: Jan 11, 2017, 07:14PM »

I'm envious of the people that can produce the right sound for all types of music and not chamgr horns.
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« Reply #26 on: Jan 11, 2017, 08:35PM »

Well, I wouldn't say it's always the 'right' sound... Then again, I'm not Joe Alessi playing the 'Tuba Mirum' solo in the Mozart Requiem (BTW, his Edwards does NOT make the 'right' sound, the sound Mozart was familiar with).  I'm just a community player that is often asked to play a part so that the performance can take place.  Kinda like Joe - in a way.

Just like Bruce, I will go ahead and do my best, rather than say "No, you better cancel the performance of that piece because my trombone is not the exact model required".

Sometimes 'real' gets the better of 'ideal'.
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« Reply #27 on: Jan 11, 2017, 09:05PM »

Then again, I'm not Joe Alessi playing the 'Tuba Mirum' solo in the Mozart Requiem (BTW, his Edwards does NOT make the 'right' sound, the sound Mozart was familiar with). 

This is an interesting point in the "what horn for what kind of music" debate. Is the correct sound always the one that was contemporary to the composition? What even is a 'right' sound?
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« Reply #28 on: Jan 11, 2017, 09:07PM »

What even is a 'right' sound?
No idea.   Don't know
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« Reply #29 on: Jan 11, 2017, 09:12PM »

I imagine we all have preconceived notions dictating what sounds are or not appropriate for a given piece, genre, style, etc. What external factors dictate these inclinations? What is the risk of being 'wrong'?
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« Reply #30 on: Jan 11, 2017, 09:54PM »

...What is the risk of being 'wrong'?

In a rehearsal?  None.  I might reconsider if it was for a performance.  But then again I had to cover lead on my 7B in a performance when the lead player had to leave in the middle of the concert.  Didn't have a small mouthpiece so I played it on a big 'un.  Sure, the sound is a little odd.  But the notes are much more important than the sound.

Then again, I'm playing with groups that are not top pro.  If Sam Burtis tried to do what I did, he may not be invited back for the next gig.
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« Reply #31 on: Jan 11, 2017, 09:55PM »

I imagine we all have preconceived notions dictating what sounds are or not appropriate for a given piece, genre, style, etc. What external factors dictate these inclinations? What is the risk of being 'wrong'?

If you are playing for yourself then you have to be the judge of what is the right sound. How you come to that conclusion would most probably be based on passed experience. But if the composer himself - I.e. Mozart - were in the room then the right sound would be whatever he dictates as he imagined the sound in the first place.

If you don't play the sound you desire then you try again but if you don't or cannot play the sound the composer wants then you may be replaced.

I do see your point though. Sound is subjective. We are always encouraged to find our own sound. I say do this regardless of equipment and then fine tune it with equipment
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« Reply #32 on: Jan 11, 2017, 11:30PM »

What even is a 'right' sound?

The right sound may be the one that lets you keep your chair.
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« Reply #33 on: Jan 12, 2017, 05:22AM »

in answer to the OP  No, what I play influences my equipment choice, along with what we refer to as 'the sound in my head'!
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