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« on: Jan 11, 2017, 01:07PM »

Thank you to all who contributed to the improvement of my recordings.

This is the final third take of the song:
Trombone is a 1955 Conn 88H and mouthpiece is a special made Hammond 12ML with Remington taper (about the size of a Bach 5)

https://sites.google.com/site/freedownloadarea/freedownloadarea/After%20A%20Dream.mp3?attredirects=0&d=1

This was the first version.
1. Trombone is a Kanstul KBT-760 and mouthpiece is a Hammond 13M (about the size of a Bach 6)
https://sites.google.com/site/brazzmusic/home/After%20A%20Dream.mp3?attredirects=0&d=1

This was the second version.
2. Trombone is a Kanstul 1570 and mouthpiece is a Hammond 12ML (about the size of a Bach 5)
https://sites.google.com/site/freedownloadarea/freedownloadarea/After%20A%20Dream%20Conn%2088H.mp3?attredirects=0&d=1

This is the first and second thread with your comments of help:
First thread: http://tromboneforum.org/index.php/topic,97285.msg1174006.html#msg1174006
Second thread: http://tromboneforum.org/index.php/topic,97319.msg1174186.html#msg1174186

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« Reply #1 on: Jan 11, 2017, 01:57PM »

Tom,

Your timing is impeccable! Try what I just did. Copy the final recording track to your first recording by adding another track to it. You will have to correct the gain and adjust the 2nd track to perfectly line up with the tracks of first recording. I think you will find a marvelous trombone mini-ensemble which verifies how meticulous your timing is!

Can't wait to hear a recording you will do for "fun", as opposed to this "serious" piece!

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« Reply #2 on: Jan 12, 2017, 01:14AM »

Thats the one I like best. For me that vibrato is cool. Its a quiet nice song and this vibrato make the music calm and beautiful. I think you have good sound on all 3 takes. Its just a matter of taste, what you personal like best? Good phrasing Tom! Not easy to make songs like this but you make it speak with sense.  Good!


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« Reply #3 on: Jan 12, 2017, 08:24AM »

Thats the one I like best. For me that vibrato is cool. Its a quiet nice song and this vibrato make the music calm and beautiful. I think you have good sound on all 3 takes. Its just a matter of taste, what you personal like best? Good phrasing Tom! Not easy to make songs like this but you make it speak with sense.  Good!

Leif

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« Reply #4 on: Jan 13, 2017, 04:43AM »

Tom I do allways like your playing. The first take does have a freshnes that the other are missing, it sounds like you are watching yourself in a not entirely good way, like you are on the guard.
It is true that you could work on your legato. And actully slide wibrato. Do listen to singers. Jay Freedman answered my question about vibrato "do not listen to orchestra players for vibrato, listen to jazz players, the most beautiful vibrato is slidevibrato, that does take lots of practice". That was years ago, today there are plenty of orchestra players with a "vocal" vibrat, like Joe Alessi, Håkan Björkman and others. And airflow. Somebody said inconsistent airflow, and that is true, even the weak jaw position.
Your playing does show musicality good phrasing and you play with good time and in tune, mostly. :)
It is very difficult to make a recording in the livingroom for to be judged on the forum, you did make a good job of it Tom!
That said, I know you can play better.
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« Reply #5 on: Jan 13, 2017, 07:18AM »

Note to self to have a listen.
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