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« Reply #840 on: Mar 20, 2017, 04:56PM »

The FBI and NSA directors testified today

What Did We Learn Today?

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Let's start with the least mysterious: we learned today about as definitively as we are likely to learn that President Trump's claim that President Obama wiretapped him in Trump Tower is false. Seeing this stated so clearly is significant. But mainly we knew this.

However, regarding Trump et al. and the Russians...

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Comey said this investigation is on-going and that it began in "late July."

To draw the very direct conclusion: the investigation continues and one of its key components is whether there was coordination between the Trump entourage and the Russian hacking effort. Ergo, it is false to suggest that that question has been settled in the negative.

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« Reply #841 on: Mar 20, 2017, 08:58PM »

Robert, you'd make a great investigative reporter.
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« Reply #842 on: Mar 21, 2017, 08:53AM »

What Did We Learn Today?

Just a terminology quip, but that should be:
What Did [Those Of Us Who Aren't Desperately Clinging to Alternative Facts™] Learn Today?
 
Although "desperately" is inaccurate--those described are able to quite fluidly navigate the Escher world their intellects and perceptions inhabit (though it's also oddly a two-dimensional Escher world).
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« Reply #843 on: Mar 21, 2017, 10:33AM »



‘Sesame Street’ Mocked Trump For Decades Before He Went After PBS

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On multiple occasions, over multiple decades, “Sesame Street,” the show more closely associated with PBS than perhaps any other, took shots at the self-admitted and well-documented grudge-holder, calling the now-president “Ronald Grump” and building entire storylines around his greed and callousness.




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« Reply #844 on: Mar 22, 2017, 02:49PM »

The Wall Street Journal weighs in. 
A President’s Credibility
Trump’s falsehoods are eroding public trust, at home and abroad.


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If President Trump announces that North Korea launched a missile that landed within 100 miles of Hawaii, would most Americans believe him? Would the rest of the world? We’re not sure, which speaks to the damage that Mr. Trump is doing to his Presidency with his seemingly endless stream of exaggerations, evidence-free accusations, implausible denials and other falsehoods.



The WSJ's tone is so damning that the NY Times reported on it...

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The editorial page of The Wall Street Journal is known for its conservative tone, but its latest editorial would stand out even in the pages of its left-leaning peers...

In particular, the editorial board pointed to Mr. Trump’s unsubstantiated claims that former President Barack Obama tapped his phones. “The President clings to his assertion like a drunk to an empty gin bottle,” the editorial said...



WSJ probably worried that the "Trump boom" will deflate if he can't get his deregulation party started...

Choppy Day on Wall Street; All Eyes on Trump and Healthcare

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U.S. stocks in the previous session had suffered their worst day since before Trump's election as investors worried that the president's difficulty in overhauling healthcare was a sign he would also face trouble pushing through promised corporate tax cuts that have been behind the market's record-breaking rally since November.

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« Reply #845 on: Mar 23, 2017, 07:17AM »


Just your average statesman-like statements...

‘I’m president, you’re not’: Here are the 5 craziest quotes from Trump’s bonkers Time interview
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« Reply #846 on: Mar 23, 2017, 07:59PM »

Meme making the rounds...

"Donald Trump shouldn't be allowed to pick a Supreme Court Justice in the last year of his Presidency."
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« Reply #847 on: Mar 24, 2017, 11:47AM »

TPM editor David Kurtz...


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With the Obamacare repeal bill on life support, Sean Spicer is giving a very subdued press briefing today so far. Hard to be cocky when you're losing.

You can't emphasize enough how much a loss will set back Republicans on both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue.

Trump's projection as a man to be feared, deal-maker, change agent, controller of his own destiny is all wrapped up in winning. It's hard to find cover in politics after a loss.

Things slip away.

Power ebbs.

Don't buy any cutesy political analysis that a loss on Obamacare repeal is really a win for the GOP, or not as bad as it seems, or anything short of a disaster.
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« Reply #848 on: Mar 24, 2017, 04:19PM »

At last the Republican leadership is coming to its senses and they have pulled the bill to dismantle Obamacare. Good!
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« Reply #849 on: Mar 24, 2017, 07:00PM »

Meme making the rounds...

"Donald Trump shouldn't be allowed to pick a Supreme Court Justice in the last year of his Presidency."

I LOVE this meme!
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« Reply #850 on: Mar 24, 2017, 08:14PM »

The glimmer brightens.

So, what's the next step in turfing Trump?

Another question.  Will the turfing of Trump leave you (us) with Pence, or another election?
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« Reply #851 on: Mar 24, 2017, 08:31PM »

If Trump leaves office for any reason (other than losing an election) the Vice President will become President and he will name a new Vice President.

I think that may even be worse.

Remember Gerry Ford pardoning Richard Nixon?  Expect Mike Pence to pardon Donald Trump.  And probably to appoint somebody like Ted Cruz as Vice President.
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« Reply #852 on: Mar 24, 2017, 08:54PM »

When President Pence is sworn in he's going to claim he only got on board to prevent anything REALLY crazy from happening.
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« Reply #853 on: Mar 24, 2017, 09:15PM »

If Trump leaves office for any reason (other than losing an election) the Vice President will become President and he will name a new Vice President.

I think that may even be worse.

Remember Gerry Ford pardoning Richard Nixon?  Expect Mike Pence to pardon Donald Trump.  And probably to appoint somebody like Ted Cruz as Vice President.
Way to crush my hopes Bruce!!!!
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If Trump leaves office for any reason (other than losing an election) the Vice President will become President and he will name a new Vice President.

I think that may even be worse.

Remember Gerry Ford pardoning Richard Nixon?  Expect Mike Pence to pardon Donald Trump.  And probably to appoint somebody like Ted Cruz as Vice President.

Way to crush my hopes Bruce!!!!

If Pence were to leave office before choosing a new VP, the Speaker of the House, Paul Ryan, would become President.
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« Reply #855 on: Mar 25, 2017, 08:13AM »

If Drumpf goes down because of the Russian collusion with his campaign it is highly likely Pence will be implicated as well. This will be a full blown Constitutional crisis the likes of which this country has never seen. I suppose Ryan would be sworn in, but he would have zero legitimacy or credibility.
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« Reply #856 on: Mar 25, 2017, 10:06AM »

One Nation, Under Fox: 18 Hours With a Network That [Tragically] Shapes America
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« Reply #857 on: Mar 25, 2017, 10:50AM »

If Drumpf goes down because of the Russian collusion with his campaign it is highly likely Pence will be implicated as well. This will be a full blown Constitutional crisis the likes of which this country has never seen. I suppose Ryan would be sworn in, but he would have zero legitimacy or credibility.

If it is concluded that the Russians influenced the election, is there any constitutional provision for a do-over?
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« Reply #858 on: Mar 25, 2017, 10:54AM »

If it is concluded that the Russians influenced the election, is there any constitutional provision for a do-over?

It would probably cause a civil war. The people who support Trump aren't fact-based and would never admit that the Russians swung the election--they'd look at it as 'liberal media' and 'deep government' or some other bugbear trying to undermine their guy.
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« Reply #859 on: Mar 25, 2017, 11:11AM »

Way to crush my hopes Bruce!!!!


If Pence were to leave office before choosing a new VP, the Speaker of the House, Paul Ryan, would become President.
Arghhh!

This is not a good situation.  Not for anyone.

If the election of a particular party is shown to have been fraudulent, it would have to be nullified and all the resulting legislation (and 3x107 executive orders) reversed.  That would be a stinking pile for sure, but wouldn't letting Trump continue to fornicate with 100 years progress be worse?

This whole thing is worse than I had guessed it would be if Flump got in.
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