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« on: Jan 27, 2017, 09:48PM »

This copied from Bill Morris:
According to the DSM-5 (manual of mental disorders): individuals with NPD (narcissistic personality disorder) have most or all of the following symptoms:

Grandiosity with expectations of superior treatment from others
Fixated on fantasies of power, success, intelligence, attractiveness, etc.
Self-perception of being unique, superior and associated with high-status people and institutions
Needing constant admiration from others
Sense of entitlement to special treatment and to obedience from others
Exploitative of others to achieve personal gain
Unwilling to empathize with others' feelings, wishes, or needs
Intensely envious of others and the belief that others are equally envious of them
Pompous and arrogant demeanor

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People with NPD tend to exaggerate their skills and accomplishments as well as their level of intimacy with people they consider to be high-status. Their sense of superiority may cause them to monopolize conversations and to become impatient or disdainful when others talk about themselves. In the course of a conversation, they may purposefully or unknowingly disparage or devalue the other person by overemphasizing their own success. When they are aware that their statements have hurt someone else, they tend to react with contempt and to view it as a sign of weakness. When their own ego is wounded by a real or perceived criticism, their anger can be disproportionate to the situation, but typically, their actions and responses are deliberate and calculated.
To the extent that people are pathologically narcissistic, they can be controlling, blaming, self-absorbed, intolerant of others’ views, unaware of others' needs and of the effects of their behavior on others, and insistent that others see them as they wish to be seen. Narcissistic individuals use various strategies to protect the self at the expense of others. They tend to devalue, derogate, insult, blame others and they often respond to threatening feedback with anger and hostility. Since the fragile ego of individuals with NPD is hypersensitive to perceived criticism or defeat, they are prone to feelings of shame, humiliation and worthlessness over minor or even imagined incidents. They usually mask these feelings from others with feigned humility, isolating socially or they may react with outbursts of rage, defiance, or by seeking revenge. The merging of the "inflated self-concept" and the "actual self" is seen in the inherent grandiosity of narcissistic personality disorder. Also inherent in this process are the defense mechanisms of denial, idealization and devaluation.
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« Reply #1 on: Jan 27, 2017, 09:58PM »

Donald Flump ...

And, unfortunately, my father...

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« Reply #2 on: Jan 28, 2017, 12:16AM »

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« Reply #3 on: Jan 28, 2017, 02:49AM »

Usually when you have somebody like this you try to have a "minder" to keep them from running amok.  There were people in the Trump organization to try to limit the rash behavior.  Maybe Kushner is the "minder" in this case?

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« Reply #4 on: Jan 28, 2017, 08:55AM »

The problem with a narcissist is that they enjoy defying detractors and handlers and such. They're bullies because they have to be in charge--totally in charge. So you either have to overpower them or detach. Most of the time you can just detach, but when you can't ... you simply have to force anything that's not what the narcissist wants to do. Obviously how successful you can be at that depends upon the opposing levels of power--wealth, position, smarts (intelligence used effectively) and such.
We just put an extreme narcissist with a lot of power into the most powerful political position on the planet. Wasn't that fun to see the election turned into a reality TV show? By doing so we've just demonstrated to the rest of the world (rather, eliminated any remaining doubt) that we're a highly narcissistic nation. Just go over those traits again thinking in terms of countries as world citizens.
This is why most of the rest of the world should have (and may have) expected us to be rationally and intellectually compromised enough to bring this cartoon presidency into being. Most of us probably should have seen this as well, though it's somehow harder to see when you're constantly struggling against such a deplorably ill mentality on a smaller scale, and it's never been allowed to manifest so raw and unfiltered in high level polite society (largely because the rhetoric all has to be completely antithetical to the narcissistic mindset, and even the narcissists tend to revile the label even while at the same time modeling it--dunno if it's mentioned in the writeup quoted int he OP, but narcissists tend to be strikingly bad at self-awareness and have grossly distorted self-images, due in part to projection elevated to the level of a superpower--the whole blaming others for their own failings shtick).

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