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« on: Feb 22, 2017, 06:32AM »

On the recommendation of Gabe Langfur I ordered a GB 1G Regular with a .312 throat and #2 back bore.  Greg confirmed that this will be a standard offering in his catalogue.  This mouthpiece centers very well, has plenty of core, has quick articulations, and is generally easier to play than the standard 1G I had been trying.  Iíve only spent a couple hours on it so far and I'm looking forward to using it this week and weekend for a few things I have coming up.  It is not a huge departure from the GP6 Iíve been using, it does stay darker and more centered in the high range which is a problem I had with the GP6.  I will report back after spending some more time on it.  Thanks Gabe and Greg for the recommendation and working with me to get me this piece.
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« Reply #1 on: Feb 23, 2017, 06:36AM »

 Good! Enjoy!
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« Reply #2 on: Feb 26, 2017, 01:15PM »

That is the ticket! Everyone that tried the .312 #2 at TMEA left with it.
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« Reply #3 on: Feb 26, 2017, 07:42PM »

I'm not surprised Zach.  I played a church gig, 10 piece gig, and a brass band concert with it this weekend and it really does work well.  Thanks again to Gabe and Greg.
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« Reply #4 on: Feb 26, 2017, 11:18PM »

If I've been very happy with a stock 1 1/8GM, should I try the new version?
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« Reply #5 on: Feb 27, 2017, 06:22AM »

If you've been very happy? Maybe not. There are certainly people and horns that work very well with Greg's original designs.

If you have any sense that it's needing more air than you really want to give, if you have any feeling like you'd like a little more focus to the pitch center, if you would like the high register to be a little easier and more focused, then yes.

I liked the medium weight with his standard throat and backbore. With these I like to go lighter - regular or custom in between regular and light.
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« Reply #6 on: Feb 27, 2017, 11:03AM »

I second everything Gabe mentioned and will add the articulations are a little quicker on this version.
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« Reply #7 on: Apr 25, 2017, 04:04PM »

Loving this mouthpiece! I just received the medium weight version of the OP and also just came from a Griego GP6. I third the comments of this mouthpiece. I'm very impressed with the response in the upper register, it sings and centers much easier. The lower register has a lot of meat to the sound while still being responsive and flexible.

Thanks to Zac for putting me in touch with Greg!
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« Reply #8 on: Apr 25, 2017, 04:35PM »

In a blind study, this was the preferred mouthpiece of the three dachshunds that tolerate my noise making in the house.
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« Reply #9 on: Apr 25, 2017, 09:10PM »

Been using mine for a couple days.

I like it a lot so far-

Better response, especially at lower dynamics
More highs in the sound- less tubby
Clearer articulations
Better high range, even with larger rim

However, coming from the 1 1/8GM, the new piece will take some getting used to. I can't just dump air at my horn and get volume upon volume, especially down low. A combination of the normal weight and smaller throat, I'm sure. Also, it put my horn a little out of balance- I started using a smaller leadpipe to tame the 1 1/8GM, but it feels a little too small with the 1G .312 #2.
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« Reply #10 on: Apr 26, 2017, 07:32AM »

I am using the 2 leadpipe and was using a 3SS before.  Playing loud is easier in one sense because you don't have to work as hard but it does take some adjustment.  As others have said the high range and articulations are easy and there is plenty of core in the sound.  The other thing I've noticed is that I play "pretty" better.  I realize that might mean different things to different people but it's they only way I can think of to describe it.
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« Reply #11 on: Apr 26, 2017, 07:04PM »

I started using a smaller leadpipe to tame the 1 1/8GM, but it feels a little too small with the 1G .312 #2.

I did exactly the same thing when I was playing a 1-1/8GM, going to a Shires B1.5 from the B2 I had played for years. The B2 is better with the .312 #2 combination, but now I'm really enjoying the Brass Ark MV50, which feels sort of in between but with a more elastic slot, if that makes any sense.
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« Reply #12 on: Apr 28, 2017, 06:34PM »

I have this mouthpiece and I love it, thinking about taking it down to lightweight though.
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« Reply #13 on: Apr 28, 2017, 07:20PM »

Before you take it to lightweight try the "*" weight. It is in between the regular and light and works really well!!
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« Reply #14 on: Apr 28, 2017, 11:05PM »

So far the normal weight feels great. I played Shostakovich 11 last night and the piece worked everywhere. 11 has some very soft, exposed moment and many loud, exposed moments (and not much in between). The soft stuff was actually possible on the 1G, and the loud stuff was easier.
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« Reply #15 on: Apr 29, 2017, 06:38AM »

As Burgerbob points out this mouth piece does respond in soft dynamics well.  It is easier to blend well in brass band and big band both.  One piece to do both easily is a big bonus.
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« Reply #16 on: Apr 29, 2017, 03:30PM »

I'm on a medium weight and you guys are tempting me to get a regular weight.........
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« Reply #17 on: Apr 29, 2017, 04:56PM »

I have a 1 1/8G and a 1G coming in .312 #2. I am playing a lot more and I am finally feeling like I can play this larger sized piece.
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« Reply #18 on: Apr 29, 2017, 05:44PM »

I have a 1 1/8G and a 1G coming in .312 #2. I am playing a lot more and I am finally feeling like I can play this larger sized piece.

Let us know what you think.  I predict that you'll like it.
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« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2017, 03:49PM »

Finally made the switch to my more open slide today. Definitely better with the smaller backbore and throat.

Funnily enough, it was the Brassark NY50 that feels too tight.
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