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« Reply #20 on: Mar 09, 2017, 05:18PM »

I may have missed it, but I don't see what tenor was played not to be mentioned? That is probably an important consideration.  For example, I can honestly say I find the Peter Sullivan Xeno physically uncomfortable for me to play, even though I can appreciate that it is a fine horn (Pete sure plays the heck out of it). 
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« Reply #21 on: Mar 10, 2017, 08:29PM »

I jst bought a Yamaha 321 Bass. What`s the general concencous on these babies?
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« Reply #22 on: Mar 10, 2017, 08:59PM »

I jst bought a Yamaha 321 Bass. What`s the general concencous on these babies?

Real good for a single.  Plays much better than a 300 series Yamaha should.
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« Reply #23 on: May 07, 2017, 01:52PM »

Reynolds (don't know the exact model, but we had a thread on one called "Tangerine")

The Reynolds singles are kick ass bass trombones for playing commercial, they really project.  The Symphonic is the most standard build with a 9.5in bell.  The Philharmonic is a 10in bell with an E pull built into the valve tubing.  The Stereophonic is the the double valve model, also a 10in bell.

The bell (and tuning slide) on my custom bass is from an early Philharmonic made of yellow brass, not the bronzolite they are known for.  Not quite as much pop as the singles I've played in the past.  But then there's all the other parts of my horn that color that.
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« Reply #24 on: May 07, 2017, 05:04PM »

King Symphony Bass Trombone (Model 1480 - this is not a 5B)
Conn 88HK with SL4762 or SL6262 Slde
Bach 42B with Bach 50B Slide
Holton TR183
Conn 71H
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« Reply #25 on: May 07, 2017, 05:15PM »

Holton 159 or 169...but I guess I am lucky...

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« Reply #26 on: May 07, 2017, 06:00PM »


Benn H. did the work on this one. It's amazing it hasn't found a new home. The Olds P22 is my favorite. My 72H, not even top 5. The 42/50 slide combo sounds interesting.
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« Reply #27 on: May 07, 2017, 10:42PM »

I jst bought a Yamaha 321 Bass. What`s the general concencous on these babies?

They are very nice horns!

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« Reply #28 on: May 10, 2017, 07:36AM »

I'll echo what the some of the others have said about a bass not being the best fit, especially, for second parts. But if you really want to go that route:

+1 for the 42B (or variant) with a 50 slide. From your profile I see a Bach 50D. Is that a 50B variant? Also you have an Edwards bass, correct? If either/both is the case, then this is probably the most economical option (if that's a factor). Plus, it's been tried with success; It works for Jay Friedman. Plus if you buy a 42 you have a tenor to double on when you really need a tenor. And that gives you another potential combination: A Bach 50? with a 42 slide.

If he hasn't sold it, Greg Waits has a really great playing 42B:
http://tromboneforum.org/index.php/topic,99727.msg1192158.html#msg1192158

There are a couple of larger-than-standard (.547") large bore tenors out there to try if you can:
Yamaha YSL-643; .551" bore
F.E. Olds O-23 "Opera"; .554" bore

FWIW, when I started playing again, all I had access to was a Conn 83H Bass trombone. This was in the context of a brass quintet. I used a Schilke 51D probably could have used a 51, but not much smaller. I got a decent blend, especially on low to mid range stuff. So, the recommendations for older Conn basses is probably a safe bet. Making it work depends on the player; Of course that's true of every playing situation on any equipment.

I wouldn't rule out the tenor option, especially if you have components that are compatible, like the Edwards and Bach. Good luck!
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« Reply #29 on: May 13, 2017, 10:50PM »

The Reynolds singles are kick ass bass trombones for playing commercial, they really project.

Also very light, at least mine is - with 10 inch bell, and E pull with stop.  Unbelievably light (literally - I took the weight via 3 different scales and I could tell people still could not believe it.)
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« Reply #30 on: May 15, 2017, 12:25PM »

How about a Williams 10. A little heavy but it can bark when needed?
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« Reply #31 on: May 16, 2017, 12:38AM »

How about a Williams 10. A little heavy but it can bark when needed?

Is that heavy on the bank account ?  Evil Evil
The Conn Fuchs is a single too ......

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« Reply #32 on: May 16, 2017, 01:28AM »

How about a Williams 10. A little heavy but it can bark when needed?

Sure.  Where do I place my order?   :D
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« Reply #33 on: May 16, 2017, 08:21AM »

Holtons 185 169 and even Th GR 183
Conn 72H  70H
NY , MT Vernon   Bach 50B
Olds single Valve TIS  10" bell if you can find one
   Highly Overlooked  Bass Trombones  All the Older Model Olds
 The Yamaha (321?)that was a copy of the Conn 72H
Those are my Favorites FWIW
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« Reply #34 on: May 16, 2017, 10:20AM »

IMHO, it sounds like you're trying to play the tenor like a bass, which isn't going to work, anymore than it does the other way around. If i try to play my King 3B like I play my Bach 42 it will also not work well.

A lot of the overall sound/response of the horn comes from the bell section, so as others have suggested, I would definitely go for a tenor bell section, either with a .562 bore or .562 /.547 dual bore slide.
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« Reply #35 on: May 16, 2017, 12:46PM »

Howard fire up the printing press cause it would not be cheap!LOL Everything has a price!
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« Reply #36 on: May 16, 2017, 02:11PM »

FYI...   Wessex has a single bass.
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« Reply #37 on: May 16, 2017, 02:19PM »

FYI... Greenbean has two single basses for sale.
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