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« on: Mar 24, 2017, 02:45PM »

Hello forum,

I'm ​in quite the pickle. I want to go downstairs to my basement and practice, but I also really want a beer.

Is there any physical harm done to the instrument if I drink while practicing? I stay careful to avoid playing without rinsing my mouth out and I only ever drink coffee, tea, or water while practicing. I don't want to ruin me Shires.

Thanks and cheers,

Elliot
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« Reply #1 on: Mar 24, 2017, 03:00PM »

I'm pretty sure that if beer killed trombones, there would be none left that were made before 2005.
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« Reply #2 on: Mar 24, 2017, 03:13PM »

Actually it can improve your results.

When you play continuously you wear out your chops.  Taking that break every few bars for a small sip is a great way to rest enough to keep making progress.

Of course, it's possible to over do..........................

I know people who drink at performances.  I would never do that.  In home practice though, in moderation, probably doesn't hurt.  Don't forget it's calories, lots of them, and they're the type that can pack on weight.  If you're spending hours in the practice room, they aren't at the gym, you're going to want to watch that. 
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« Reply #3 on: Mar 24, 2017, 03:51PM »

Tim I appreciate your response; however I was asking more along the lines of whether blowing the sweet nectar through the horn could do any actual damage to the horns, similar to red rot and sugary stuff.

Thanks again,

Elliot
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« Reply #4 on: Mar 24, 2017, 04:04PM »

Just clean out your slide more often.
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« Reply #5 on: Mar 24, 2017, 04:13PM »

Tim I appreciate your response; however I was asking more along the lines of whether blowing the sweet nectar through the horn could do any actual damage to the horns, similar to red rot and sugary stuff.

Thanks again,

Elliot
Well on this forum you might only want one answer but you'll receive many.
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« Reply #6 on: Mar 24, 2017, 06:44PM »

The more you drink, the better you sound.   Evil
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« Reply #7 on: Mar 24, 2017, 07:35PM »

I'm pretty sure that if beer killed trombones, there would be none left that were made before 2005.

That gave me a hardy chuckle.... Good!
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« Reply #8 on: Mar 24, 2017, 08:00PM »

Obligatory for Dixieland practice and gigs! Good!
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« Reply #9 on: Mar 24, 2017, 10:03PM »

I'm going to venture that beer is as good or bad as a carbonated beverage in a trombone but perhaps without the sugar.

Perhaps our resident chemistry expert should weigh in.
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« Reply #10 on: Mar 25, 2017, 05:13AM »

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Perhaps our resident chemistry expert should weigh in.

Biggest problem with beer is that any residues you create inside the trombone are a great medium for organic stuff (read bacteria) to grow in.  A regular cleaning (you can do it yourself in a bathtub with some dish detergent) can keep the growth to a minimum.  Drinking too much beer can have some bad consequences, though.  I'd doubt that drinking ONE cool one while practicing will do much harm.
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« Reply #11 on: Mar 25, 2017, 03:15PM »

I have had a glass or two of wine during practice ... from time to time.  It has never seemed to cause any real problems with my horns.  They do seem to get a bit more rambunctious though.  :/
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« Reply #12 on: Mar 25, 2017, 03:56PM »

I have a little informal quartet.  We meet about once a month.  Goal number one is to drink some good beer. Goal number two is play.  My horn seems no worse for wear.  However, I wash my slide out about once a month with water and a snake.
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« Reply #13 on: Mar 26, 2017, 04:22PM »

Tim I appreciate your response; however I was asking more along the lines of whether blowing the sweet nectar through the horn could do any actual damage to the horns, similar to red rot and sugary stuff.

Thanks again,

Elliot

Moisture is the enemy of brass.  Dry, I think it would last for ever.  It doesn't precipitation harden, so work hardening is the only possibility, and that is an energetically unfavorable state.  I think it will self relax eventually, probably on the order of about 10,000 years.

Moist, some galvanic corrosion is inevitable.

But it is impossible to play without moist air, so there's no way out.

Beer doesn't add any more moisture.  It may add some organics as Bruce said, and those deposits can also cause areas of varied electronegativity (might be the wrong term).  So a reasonably regular snake and swab is probably indicated.  I would do monthly. 

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« Reply #14 on: Mar 26, 2017, 06:17PM »

When I have a difficult passage to work through, I have a beer or a glass of chardonnay sometimes.  I feel it relaxes me, relieves any tension I feel when ironing out difficult music.   
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« Reply #15 on: Mar 26, 2017, 06:26PM »

Hello forum,

I'm ​in quite the pickle. I want to go downstairs to my basement and practice, but I also really want a beer.

Is there any physical harm done to the instrument if I drink while practicing? I stay careful to avoid playing without rinsing my mouth out and I only ever drink coffee, tea, or water while practicing. I don't want to ruin me Shires.

Thanks and cheers,

Elliot
The coffee is probably worse than the beer.

Keep the horn clean and you will be fine.

Myself, I prefer a nip of whisky.

Cheers,
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« Reply #16 on: Mar 27, 2017, 05:37AM »

I have a little informal quartet.  We meet about once a month.  Goal number one is to drink some good beer. Goal number two is play.  My horn seems no worse for wear.  However, I wash my slide out about once a month with water and a snake.
Once a month? Once a week for me on the slide. Bell section once a month.
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« Reply #17 on: Mar 27, 2017, 05:46AM »

I play with a Fire Department band, all the bands meet at the carnival beer tent after the parade, and we take turns playing until late into the evening.  While the other bands are playing we're drinking.  There are a lot of horns out there at these events that have withstood this treatment for many years.  We've got a couple of fire department owned Sousaphones that were made in the 1940s that still sound and play great.  I do believe in routine cleaning of your horns, but having a cold one while practicing shouldn't do any harm to the horn, especially if you clean the horn on a regular basis.
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« Reply #18 on: Mar 27, 2017, 06:53AM »

Once a month? Once a week for me on the slide. Bell section once a month.

I pull a softer snake with alcohol on it through once a week.  It's only once a month it makes it into the bath tub.
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« Reply #19 on: Mar 27, 2017, 01:54PM »

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