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« on: Mar 26, 2017, 08:20AM »

Hi

I created a brass quintet arrangement on "Black or White". How do you find it?
I am a rank beginner at this, so any tips are welcome.

Thanks!

https://youtu.be/un3QL-BhmNk

<a href="https://youtu.be/un3QL-BhmNk" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/un3QL-BhmNk</a>
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« Reply #1 on: Mar 26, 2017, 08:41AM »

That's pretty cool, I like it.  It feels a little bit rushed, and it's faster than the original.  It would probably be a lot easier to play and sound better with the tempo backed off a little.  The tuba part needs definition and I think some of that would be lost trying to play it too fast.
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« Reply #2 on: Mar 26, 2017, 06:21PM »

I agree with Doug about the tempo.  But I'd love to get my chops on that bottom line.  Kudos and keep it up! 
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« Reply #3 on: Mar 27, 2017, 10:13AM »

Thanks for the kind words!
Would that be an arrangement you would buy for your brass quintet? If not, what makes it a no?

What are you guys specifically looking for in a brass quintet arrangement?
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« Reply #4 on: Mar 27, 2017, 04:20PM »

I think it's pretty cool too, but agreed on the tempo.  I think my brass quintet would like it.
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« Reply #5 on: Mar 28, 2017, 04:29PM »

I like it, and I think my quintet would too. I just checked out the Michael Jackson version and agree, yours is a little faster tempo.  That said, nice change of pace from the traditional quintet music.  Any chance you could get it played by a quintet so we could hear it live?
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« Reply #6 on: Apr 13, 2017, 08:33PM »

I think there's definitely some potential here. I'll concur with everyone and say be careful about the tempo.

One thing you need to take into consideration when you are composing and arranging is that you can't really depend on the playback software to demonstrate how playable something might be. These programs have come a long way since they first came out, however, they are still grossly inaccurate compared to the real thing. Live brass players (especially tuba players) would have difficulty playing fast passages with leaping intervals. It can be done by a good player, but not by anybody.

So I guess what I'm saying is take into account the group you are writing for. If you have the players that can play what you're writing, then great. If not, then you may want to rethink some things. If you don't have a group to write for, then find one. That was the most helpful thing for me when I first started writing. There is nothing more educational than having a live ensemble to treat as a guinea pig, especially if the players in that ensemble are well-trained on their instrument.

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