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« Reply #20 on: Jul 05, 2016, 04:25PM »

Okay I'll focus on school for now.  I'm on summer break and don't come back aftet the day after labour day.  And yes, I'll study some female classmates ( ͡ ͜ʖ ͡) And my studies too!
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« Reply #21 on: Jul 05, 2016, 05:10PM »


2. Joining military bands, particularly Army bands, without a completed degree  (major does not matter) is like shooting yourself in the foot -- nearly 100% of your peers will have degrees that count towards promotion. You won't get promoted in the current climate unless every peer gets promoted and they still somehow need more NCOs.

The USMC promotion system hardly factors in degrees at all.  In fact, the promotion point system only counts courses you take while in the service so a degree you already have would count for 0 points.  Your actual work performance is more important than (potentially dubious) education.

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3. If you just join to do instrument repair, just know that the Army does not have a repair ASI. You won't be able to repair in the Army unless someone in your unit randomly knows how to do it. Even then, no Army bands have repair equipment. I think the Marines and Navy do their own repairs.

The USMC does have their own repair technicians but the possibility of going to the repair school in Red Wing in your first enlistment is a nice 0%.  Plan on a minimum of one reenlistment.

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I really think that you should focus on your high school and female classmate studies. You are on the forum a lot, but school and your classmates are a lot more important right now.

Absolutely!  Don't rule out the military (music or otherwise) as an option but focus on where you are and what you're doing now.
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« Reply #22 on: Jul 08, 2016, 10:17AM »

You should definitely still apply to Michigan State. They seem to view applications on a very holistic level, and if you are a good fit with Professor Ordman, she may be able to pull some strings. My grades were much less than stellar going into my junior year, and because I made a turn around, I was able to get into my top choice colleges. Don't worry about necessarily getting a 4.0. Just do the absolute best work that you can, and the rest will fall into place. Feel free to shoot me an email if you need any guidance, and I would be happy to give it my best shot, or connect you with someone who can help more than me.
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« Reply #23 on: Jul 19, 2016, 12:21PM »

Well, here's what I decided to do, I will improve my organisation and will learn how to use binders, folders, etc correctly.  In some classes they are co-taught  (English 11 and U.S Government) I'll ask the teachers questions about topics I don't fully understand.  Also, I'll focus more on my studies and homework and will do some during lunch dependening the hour the class is in.  And finally, I will go over the PSAT to see how I can improve and do well on the ACT or SAT.  I will also try to apply for MSU and try my best to get that GPA up.  Thanks for all the suggestions everyone!
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« Reply #24 on: Jul 19, 2016, 02:10PM »

I'm speaking from the perspective of having two teenagers and a college student (rising junior) in the house.
Based on what you've said thus far, I would recommend against college at this point, especially if

1) You haven't narrowed down your major to 1st choice/2nd choice

2) Your GPA is actually 2.40/4.0

3) You're considering a technical field (Instrument building/repair) that would severely limit your choices of schools

Joe_Guarr, who hasn't been on Forum in a while but who graduated from MSU, may be able to steer you in the right direction.

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« Reply #25 on: Aug 27, 2016, 06:57PM »

UPDATE: I've got a call from my school saying that they will put me in a IEP (Individual Education Programme)  English class its basically a special ed class.  And instead of U.S Government and AP Macroeconomics, the decided that I take a life skills class to help with my socialising, speech, taking care of oneself, etc.  So I will take U.S Government and AP Macroeconomics my senior year.  I also still have Foundations of Calculus and Honours Physics and the two band classes I signed up for.  I will start my junior year of high school September 6th and the only classes I will have a lot of homework in will be my science and math class. 
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« Reply #26 on: Aug 27, 2016, 08:03PM »

So I will take U.S Government and AP Macroeconomics my senior year.

Makes sense, Government and Economics is a senior year course in my area. I'm a sophomore and right now I'm trying to get my required courses out of the way (currently doing my second foreign language credit) so I can do all of my AP, dual enrollment (leaving school for engineering classes at a university), and like 1,478 band classes junior and senior year. It's a bit too late for you to do that, but I suggest getting your necessary credits to graduate (PE, foreign languages, etc.) senior year and try and do some easy Honors or AP classes.

Apologies if my terminology makes no sense to you, I'm from South Florida.
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« Reply #27 on: Aug 28, 2016, 04:19PM »

No its cool, every school district is different.  I do have my foreign language credits complete along with my science.  This year will be my last credit for math since I'm in the Accelerated pathway along with science.  Normally U.S Government and Economics is taken in junior year where I'm at.  So hopefully things will go well for me this year. :)
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« Reply #28 on: Aug 30, 2016, 05:55AM »

To gauge where you stand academically, and to assess your chances of getting into MSU or elsewhere, take the ACT exam as soon as you can.  It appears the average ACT score  composite at MSU is 26, and the 75th percentile score is 28.  Universities look heavily at your activities (student council, volunteer work, sports, yes music, etc.) but an ACT or SAT score that is not "in range" can be a deal killer. I move my youngest into UW-Madison tomorrow to start her freshman year.  Madison has 28 for average, 30 for 75th percentile score. One of her friends scored 25 but was student council president, a Certified Nursing Assistant who did about 10 hours of volunteer work at a hospital per week, graduated in the top 20% of her class, and active in virtually everything.  The principal raved about her contributions to the school and her maturity and leadership skills. She could not get in despite some direct appeals from the principal to the head of admissions. She was deemed "not likely to be academically successful" based a middling ACT score.  There are a lot of ACT/SAT prep programs available, some scams, some legit, to help you perform your best on the exams.  Good luck this school year, and don't waste too much time on this forum!
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« Reply #29 on: Aug 30, 2016, 07:35AM »

When I was in college I looked down on rote memorization and valued learning concepts.

and that's correct, sort of, but I had not realized how much of an efficiency advantage better memory would have been.

In hindsight I would have worked hard at one of those memory courses the summer before.  Those tricks really work, and save huge amounts of time.  It's actually part of the general idea of getting more organized. 

Also, get Shopcraft is Soul Craft at your local library.  Not everybody is made for college. 
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« Reply #30 on: Aug 31, 2016, 11:29AM »


Just got my schedule from the school, I have a feeling that this year I will improve and try to raise my a GPA! :)
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« Reply #31 on: Aug 31, 2016, 01:59PM »

Good luck Ethan.  I hope you have a terrific year!

Remember to take advantage of the resources available at your school -- counselors and subject teachers, especially.  Make sure that you get off on the right foot by seeking out your teachers one-on-one to introduce yourself, talk about your goals and start building a relationship.  That will help you when it comes time to talk about grades, homework challenges, etc.

Even if you think you know each other, re-introduce yourself especially to your academic (non-band) teachers so they get to know a new more focused Ethan.  Make sure that you do your work consistently, as completely as possible and on time.  You holding up your end of the deal will help your teachers understand where you need help or are excelling, and make it easier for them to help you.

I imagine that fall football season running into holiday concert season is going to take up a lot of band time.  Make sure you maintain a healthy balance with your musical life while having a great academic year.

Finally, remember that a numerical GPA as your school counts it is less important than the raw grade and course load on your transcript.  Most colleges don't use the High School's computation of GPA since different places can compute and weight differently.  Colleges will generally look at the level of the courses for weighting (AP/IB/Honors), will select the courses that are important to their admission criteria (usually English, Math, Science, History, Language - usually omitting Gym, Religious studies at religious schools, and maybe even band).  They then cut off all the +'s and -'s (as those are also inconsistently used in grading systems) and compute their own version of GPA to compare you on an even basis to other applicants. 

Why is that important?  If your school uses +/- grading, don't be happy with a B+.  Build a relationship with your teacher to talk about your grades as they evolve -- find out what you need to do to shade that to an A or A-; an A- is an A when they cut the (-) off, and a B+ becomes a B.  Same with C+ vs B-.  If you go and see your teacher only when grades are published you will have less impact than if you are working at it all semester.  Get on it soon and consistently.   And don't rely on A's in band to boost your GPA -- the grade may not be as important a factor in assessing GPA depending on the school.

I hope you have fun and are tremendously successful -- its an important year and you are heading in the right direction to make the most of it!

(and boy I am glad my kids are done with HS!!!)

Good luck!!

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« Reply #32 on: Sep 10, 2016, 07:24AM »

Things to think about

You can get accepted by the School of Music but turned down by the University and vice vera

ACT and SAT scores are very important for financial aid

Potential college students need to realize the importance of English/grammar and math skills for financial aid.and acceptance

Military bands are in trouble. Read the current issue of The Instrumentalist and then google it. It is not a democratic republican issue.

Get a tutor for math and grammar .

Have at least three schools to apply to. When I was searching I ended up applying to  Marshall yUniversity, WVU, Cinncinati. Marshall was my first choice because I was already studying with their trombone, Dr. John Mead. I worked hard to get my GPA up and graduated  high school with honors. Marshall offered a full ride scholarship and I took it. I was able to live at home and save money for grad school . The savings allowed me to go Ithaca College who offered an assistantship and to study with Allen Ostrander. Hard work pays off. Best wishes and study hard!!

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« Reply #33 on: Sep 10, 2016, 11:36AM »

I finished my first week of school and in Honours Physics, I already have a 110% and doing well in it as well.  As for Calculus, I find it pretty easy so far and the class offers study sessions before school every Monday at 6:30 - 7:15.  And my English class is smaller than a normal class.  Overall, I can say that I'm off to a great start.  More updates to come.
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« Reply #34 on: Sep 10, 2016, 11:58AM »

Good.  More time with the books and less time here, please. ;-)
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« Reply #35 on: Sep 17, 2016, 11:35AM »

I hadn't intended to abandon this thread

but

Since the Army is out of the question for instrument repair(I didn't know that either) the next options would be the Marines or the Navy and while it doesn't hurt to audition for these bands, if you are one of those people who just barely got the minimum score required you may want to reconsider joining out of high school as the Naval music program is brutal to those who barely pass

You won't be doing instrument repair for at least the first 4 years as you must reach the rank of E-5 to apply for the repair division

Do contact recruiters and take the auditions out of high school, its a good experience. I took the auditions twice, once out of high school and once in my 4th year of college
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« Reply #36 on: Nov 07, 2016, 04:34PM »

UPDATE:  First quarter has ended and here are my grades:
1st Hour: Personal/Social Skills A-
2nd Hour: English 11 A
3rd Hour: Honors Physics D-
4th Hour: Varsity Band A
5th Hour: Jazz Band A
6th Hour: Foundations of Calculus B+
I had a hard time with physics that quarter and I know how to do the math but reading the story problems gave my the most struggle.  Since I did really good in FOC, my teacher said that I could do well in AP Calculus BC and AP Computer Science A.  After calculating my current GPA (2.42) I got a result that I have a 2.96 GPA now!  I will say that things are really going smoothly! :D
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« Reply #37 on: Nov 08, 2016, 11:16AM »

Hi Ethan -

Glad you are feeling more confident as the semester is moving along.  I don't want to rain on your parade, but here are a couple of things you should think about to balance priorities and make things as smooth as you think they are.  Simply, those As in the Band classes are not going to help you nearly as much as the current Physics grade will hurt.

I'm not sure how your school computes your GPA (i.e., how they weight things), but please remember this -- As I said in an earlier post, most colleges will assess your GPA independently; they will not rely on your school's computation.  They will lop off the (+) and (-) and just look at the raw letter grade, and then weight using their scale.  That way they can compare all applicants using the same rules, and not worry about different schools doing things differently.  So the B+ will be viewed as a B.

Then they will look at the courses, and will almost always use academic classes only in their review.  Math, Science, History, Language, etc. will be counted in their calculation.  Grades in band, religion, phys ed, etc. won't be counted, or will be discounted heavily.  So, that's two of your A's that are great to have, but probably won't count for as much, if anything, in the admissions process.  I am not sure how they would classify the Personal/Social Skills class -- a lot will depend on how your school describes it.  If it is fulfilling an English or other language requirement, it could count.  Your guidance counselor will know.

Physics, on the other hand will most definitely be counted.  In fact, it will have a higher weighting because its an honors course.  What does your physics teacher say about your grade?  How often are you seeking help and guidance from him/her?  As a rule, if its your worst grade, you should be making that teacher your best friend.    From my experience, success with word problems is being careful, paying attention to the details and not reading into the facts presented.  But ask your teacher for help.  That D-, if sustained, will hurt you far more than the A's in band will help you.  You need to be aggressive and fix it as best you can.

Finally, please fix your signature block ....... it's Adlai Stevenson (not Adali).  A prominent name in American politics -- you might as well fix it in honor of Election Day!  Also potential colleges will expect that you know how to spell the name of your school and proofread your work (and I know that someone else here has pointed it out before as well)!

Good luck.

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« Reply #38 on: Nov 08, 2016, 11:53AM »

The D- will keep you out of a lot of good schools, unfortunately. 

Can you repeat the course?  I don't know how high schools work (my memory doesn't extend that far back) but most colleges will let students retake courses that they did poorly in.  At UC Berkeley, where I work, if you received a D, F, or NP, the course can be retaken (once).  Only the higher grade will be used to calculate GPA and for graduation/program unit requirements.  Check with your counselor.
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« Reply #39 on: Nov 08, 2016, 02:16PM »

The D- will keep you out of a lot of good schools, unfortunately. 

Can you repeat the course?  I don't know how high schools work (my memory doesn't extend that far back) but most colleges will let students retake courses that they did poorly in.  At UC Berkeley, where I work, if you received a D, F, or NP, the course can be retaken (once).  Only the higher grade will be used to calculate GPA and for graduation/program unit requirements.  Check with your counselor.
Yesterday when I turned my homework for physics, I just got a notification from Powerschool saying that my, 2nd quarter grade is an A with a 100% and the overall semester grade is an B- with an 80%.  I will definitely try to improve this quarter and try my best if I can get an advantage to try to earn extra credit points for extra credit projects, less hall pass, etc. 

Also, I got a message saying that my grade in FOC for 1st quarter is now an A- at 90%! 

I always got confused on how the GPA scale and hour credits work.  Since Honours Physics and Foundations of Calculus are advanced classes, I honestly don't know if the GPA is added in a way.  I'll definitely try to get a hold of my counsellor to ask for further advice.

Thanks all,

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