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« on: May 05, 2017, 11:31AM »

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Custom-Modified-Bach-Tenor-Trombone/122481134807?_trksid=p5411.c100170.m2943&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140131123831%26meid%3Db8520bc4de81481fae70c751396df19b%26pid%3D100170%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D15%26sd%3D122481134807

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« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2017, 12:01PM »

How do you pull the F tuning slide??? Looks like a Monette converted Bach  ;-)
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« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2017, 12:31PM »

Ugh!
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« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2017, 12:43PM »

Dat slide cook, thoh
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« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2017, 12:47PM »

I think I'd much rather look at the F attachment tubing than whatever that is. 

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Some wear and some dings on the bottom slide crook.

Yeah, just a little wear.  It looks like it tried to hit itself with a hammer there to put itself out of its misery.
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« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2017, 01:40PM »

They claim its a bach.. what model??? 36? has a narrow crook... narrow flat crook evidently that I didn't notcie the first time around
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« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2017, 01:45PM »

It looks like Gold painted aliminum foil.
I guess you wouldn`t have to wear your tin foil hat to that gig
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« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2017, 02:41PM »

They claim its a bach.. what model??? 36? has a narrow crook... narrow flat crook evidently that I didn't notcie the first time around

I'm hoping it's an Omega or some other "intermediate" line Bach.  Doing that to a Strad would be a sacrilege.
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« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2017, 07:21PM »

Pretty sure it is a Conn 50H.
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« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2017, 07:28PM »

Got a reversed tuning slide and no tuning slide brace.  Also a string linkage.  Not like any Bach I've ever seen.

I don't think it's wrapped with tin foil; probably a brass sheet that has been "patterned" with a ball peen hammer.
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« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2017, 08:03PM »

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I don't think it's wrapped with tin foil; probably a brass sheet that has been "patterned" with a ball peen hammer.

^ This.

This horn has been on consignment at A&G Music in Oakland for a few weeks.  Kinda cool, actually - in a Mad Max sort of way.  Great for keg parties, I would think.  The work was done BAC. 
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« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2017, 08:25PM »

The work was done BAC.
Why does that not come as a surprise?

Any idea what the base instrument is?

I suspect the handslide crook is that way on purpose.
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« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2017, 11:41PM »

Why would somebody want to hide the F attachment section haha.

I think a better question is why the tech who did the work didn't tell this guy he was an idiot for wanting the work done!
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« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2017, 04:41AM »

Hah, I *almost* said "BAC" instead of "Monette" in my original post.  Yeah, that's an interesting design for sure!!
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« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2017, 05:24AM »

Why would somebody want to hide the F attachment section haha.

I think a better question is why the tech who did the work didn't tell this guy he was an idiot for wanting the work done!
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« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2017, 05:35AM »

Hah, I *almost* said "BAC" instead of "Monette" in my original post.  Yeah, that's an interesting design for sure!!

Whatever you may think of Monette, he is an amazing craftsman and I have never seen or heard someone to be unhappy with his work. Sometimes his sound concept may not be exactly what one is looking for, but then nobody is forced to spent 10 000$ or plus and wait up to 18 months.

The price tag is often hard to swallow, but same can be said about Rath, Shires and many other custom brass artisans.
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« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2017, 05:43AM »

Whatever you may think of Monette, he is an amazing craftsman and I have never seen or heard someone to be unhappy with his work. Sometimes his sound concept may not be exactly what one is looking for, but then nobody is forced to spent 10 000$ or plus and wait up to 18 months.

The price tag is often hard to swallow, but same can be said about Rath, Shires and many other custom brass artisans.

Don't get me wrong, his horns are well built. I just think that some of them look utterly ridiculous. Ditto with BAC. There are just less Monette devotees here than BAC devotees to wrangle feathers ;-)
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« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2017, 06:21AM »

Ditto with BAC. There are just less Monette devotees here than BAC devotees to wrangle feathers ;-)

Well, I didn't want to bash any company, BAC included, though as far as I can see, the feedback on their services is mixed at best.
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« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2017, 06:24AM »

If you have a Monette horn in a section, regardless of the style of music, you really have TWO sections.

As for BAC, the Elliott Mason horn is unbelievably good, even though it looks dumb.

I played one of the prototypes that one of his former students had and I think it was the best non-legit horn I've ever played aside from the wire slide grip.
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« Reply #19 on: May 06, 2017, 06:30AM »

When it comes to section playing, competing with monette in a section is a tough job. You either get a whole section of it, or none at all.

As for BAC, I am sure that they sure do some really great stuff, but the negative feed-back regarding their restoration/customisation of other branded instruments really makes them look bad.

Personally, I don't mind the industrial look, though the Dizzy looking bells are a bit over the top IMHO.

The OP example was none of the above, just plain stupid  :/ I wonder if he is going to find somebody stupid enough to buy that thing...
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